GOOD PWO WITHOUT ANY CAFFEINE OR ANYTHING THAT IS SIMILAR ?

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    Cool GOOD PWO WITHOUT ANY CAFFEINE OR ANYTHING THAT IS SIMILAR ?


    So I want to buy a new PWO without any caffeine in it since I'm highly reactive to it. I've been using N.O products for a while, they give you a great pump and some energy, but I want more of a kick with the increased pumps.

    I tried N.O Xplode and it gave me great pumps and all, but the energy was just not for me because of the caffeine in it. I want a product with good energy, vasolidation and pump, but without any caffeine. I've also seen that N.O Xplode comes without caffeine. Keep the prices not too expensive it would be better for me that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
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    There are some pretty good stim free options out there, but most "energy" providing products do so with stims such as caffeine.

    Regardless I'd look into Ultima or Caff. Free Focus XT for focus and something like Hemavol or Agmatine or Cit. Mal. for pumps.

    So basically was Cel said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    All good choices!! Hemavol for pumps, endurance and natural energy stacked with focusxt is a great combo

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    Everyone has nailed it in this thread. They are all really good options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    All good choices!! Hemavol for pumps, endurance and natural energy stacked with focusxt is a great combo
    I am a fan of that combo, Hemavol+Focus-XT , I have yet to try the fully Stim-Free version with the Caffeine Free Focus-XT , but I am sure it will be the best I can get when I have to do my next stim break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    There are some pretty good stim free options out there, but most "energy" providing products do so with stims such as caffeine.

    Regardless I'd look into Ultima or Caff. Free Focus XT for focus and something like Hemavol or Agmatine or Cit. Mal. for pumps.

    So basically was Cel said.
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    All good choices!! Hemavol for pumps, endurance and natural energy stacked with focusxt is a great combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
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    Everyone has nailed it in this thread. They are all really good options.

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    Hemavol and Body Octane are probably some of the best non-stim pre workouts on the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Hemavol and Body Octane are probably some of the best non-stim pre workouts on the market.
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    These and maybe Genomyx Protocol. Drive is also excellent by itself or stacked with any of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    These and maybe Genomyx Protocol. Drive is also excellent by itself or stacked with any of these.
    I love Genomyx's protocol, however I see a different application for it rather than PWO specifically! (Love me some good leucine !)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    I love Genomyx's protocol, however I see a different application for it rather than PWO specifically! (Love me some good leucine !)
    I agree that Protocol is probably the most versatile thing out there since one could argue whether it's best pre, intra or post workout. I like it it pre and intra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I agree that Protocol is probably the most versatile thing out there since one could argue whether it's best pre, intra or post workout. I like it it pre and intra.
    Drinking BCAAs intra workout seems pointless IMO. The idea behind Compete did intrigue me though, I do agree with electrolytes, yet I have yet to try it to assess the need of Carnitines intra workout...Though I rather keep doing some reads on this before I try it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Drinking BCAAs intra workout seems pointless IMO. The idea behind Compete did intrigue me though, I do agree with electrolytes, yet I have yet to try it to assess the need of Carnitines intra workout...Though I rather keep doing some reads on this before I try it !
    I like Xtend intra only when I workout fasted. I bought a tub of Protocol and can't wait to try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I like Xtend intra only when I workout fasted. I bought a tub of Compete and can't wait to try it.
    I do not like BCAAs Intra workout for many reasons. Most important being that the body will use them as part of the amino-acid pool of the body and munch on them for energy.
    I rather it does so on my Glycogen and Fat stores. Pre-Workout however (1-2 hours when I get a chance...something I havent been able to do due to my 6am schedule for lifting) it helps with the mTOR pathway for protein synthesis, and my idea is that is helps with leptin-catochelamine responses in IFing.
    I like them in high dosed Leucine contents (8:1:1 or just plain Leucine) postworkout with a high Prot-Carb meal. It helps with absorption and protein synthesis too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armsbrah View Post
    So I want to buy a new PWO without any caffeine in it since I'm highly reactive to it. I've been using N.O products for a while, they give you a great pump and some energy, but I want more of a kick with the increased pumps.

    I tried N.O Xplode and it gave me great pumps and all, but the energy was just not for me because of the caffeine in it. I want a product with good energy, vasolidation and pump, but without any caffeine. I've also seen that N.O Xplode comes without caffeine. Keep the prices not too expensive it would be better for me that way.
    Stim-Free Focus XT would be solid for you... The amount of energy I get from it is insane considering it's a stim-free based product.

    It's also a great add-in to any pre-workout that you have.

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    Caffeine-free Focus XT is the best non-stim energy I have ever gotten from a product.
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