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    Aniracetam or Piracetam


    I think I have narrowed it down to these to. Which one would you choose for social anxiety and public speaking. New job has some public speaking and I get alot of anxiety over it but seem to do well once I get going

    So which compund would help ? What Dose ? What brand/ Product

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    My ability to articulate thoughts actually decreases with consumption of any racetam. But aniracetam would be the best option of the two, at 1.5g daily.
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    Really thats good to know and something to watch for. Does it need to be taken with Choline ? also what brand do you reccomend aniracetam seems alittle harder to find in caps
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    Aniracetam seems to be more anxiolytic. Try it without choline at first. If you get headaches, then maybe work in some CDP choline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broons View Post
    Aniracetam seems to be more anxiolytic. Try it without choline at first. If you get headaches, then maybe work in some CDP choline.
    Ok will try that . Do you have a link to where it can be purchased. I found a few on amazon but they were sold out
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    My ability to articulate thoughts actually decreases with consumption of any racetam. But aniracetam would be the best option of the two, at 1.5g daily.
    hmmm.. would you consider that a side and still recommend racetams for the other cognitive benefits?
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    Bump for brand or where to buy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamski View Post
    hmmm.. would you consider that a side and still recommend racetams for the other cognitive benefits?
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    I have yet to find anything that works better than Ani for anxiety and public speaking. Articulation, recall, and processing all increases. Check out the Noot thread in over 35 and it is a winner by just about everyone. It's my go-to for big presentations and speaking functions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj
    I have yet to find anything that works better than Ani for anxiety and public speaking. Articulation, recall, and processing all increases. Check out the Noot thread in over 35 and it is a winner by just about everyone. It's my go-to for big presentations and speaking functions.
    At what dosage are you taking pre speech? And with choline?
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    I take it everyday because I host conferences and conduct executive meetings 4 days a week. Never know when! My stack is 750mg ani (always take with a good fatty meal), 300mg Alpha-GPC, 100 mg L-theanine, and 120mg Rhodiola twice a day.

    L-theanine I have taken for years and it really just calms the mind with a good alpha wave energy.
    Ani and Alpha I can feel come on about 20-30 min after taking it. It creates a mental energy and I immediately feel clear in my thinking and I never find myself searching for words, they just are there.
    Rhodiola is great for energy and stress relief in general.
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    I know where to get quality racetams. Are we allowed to give out that info or is it against forum rules?
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    Ahh I'm taking 1g of ani after breakfast with 250mg of CDP-Choline. Then 4 hours later I'm 500mg of ani and 250mg of CDP-Choline. In the morning I get the mental energy and it seems like my speech is a tiny bit better but I've experienced a tiny speech articulation decline but not that noticeable. My memory is what I want and i believe after 2 months of being on it, I can say that I've noticed that I have been recalling some of my memories with more ease, not a big difference but enough to were I notice. It's more around the lines of reading studies about certain ingredients and the mechanisms on how it works.
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    Hit up a user on here named Tuberman. He is really into the studies and could likely break down just about every detail you could ever want or not want. Lol. He is heavy into noots and loves Ani.
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    You can also look into a combo of Uridine, choline and dha. Can have a very nootropic like effect also can be anti depressive I believe.
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    I appreciate the suggestion. Always down to read, ask members, and of course expand the knowledge. Mr.cooper is pretty knowledgable on the subject as well and has definitely allowed me to expand my interest in this type of stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    My ability to articulate thoughts actually decreases with consumption of any racetam. But aniracetam would be the best option of the two, at 1.5g daily.
    Cyrus/I have both used racetams extensively. Cyrus more so than I.

    Oxiracetam is the only racetam I ever had success w/ writing and speaking based assignments. Ani/Pir were not helpful in this manner.

    I'd avoid of these, perhaps some Phenibut XT for social anxiety.
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    Just depends on the person and how they are wired. You cannot make overly broad recommendations about Noots, rather you can only share experiences and make suggestions. Ani does wonders for me..increases word recall, articulation, writing skills, and really decreases my social anxiety. Piracetam makes me wired and ADD. Some very clear and powerful thinking but not very focused...and the insomnia is terrible. I can sleep well on Ani.

    Just tried Noopept...whoa. Heavy duty stuff, very racey state of mind with extreme focus...but insomnia kinda ruins it for me. Will continue to experiment further with it to search for a sweet spot.
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    Isn't noopept like 1000x stronger than piracetam? I'm tempted to try it but I'm still a noob to nootropics. Don't wanna go overboard.
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    Well, that's what they claim..but you have to ask what "1000X more powerful" actually means. I think it basically refers to dosing...Piracetam takes 2-4 grams per day, Noopept is 20-40mg. Noopept should be taken with caution and use a mg accurate scale to get precise dosing.
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    Well yea.. Understandable, just reading studies and information on it. Seems like a pretty nice racetam. Still digging further and further, coming up with questions about it, and trying to find the answers. I love the information on everything I read but I have to keep in mind if the sources are legit for information.
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    I had trouble finding legit info on Noopept as well. LOTS of anecdotal user testimonies, but next to nothing in terms of solid research. Basically makes me think it's a quasi designer drug, albeit one with a seemingly benevolent track record so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    Just depends on the person and how they are wired. You cannot make overly broad recommendations about Noots, rather you can only share experiences and make suggestions.
    Very good point indeed. I have tried Ani, Oxi, and Pir. Some people love piracetam- I hate it. It makes me grouchy and super tired no matter the brand or dose. Noots are a curious thing in the way that they affect people. I have turned many people on to Ani and they love it, but on the self same hand, I know 2-3 people that can't take it because it actually makes them very anxious and hyper.
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    Thanks of posting in my thread. Which brand Aniracetam do you reccomend? I found some on ebay/amazon but want to make sure I'm getting a decent brand/doasage

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    I use JL Nootropics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I use JL Nootropics.
    Only place I could find that was ebay not a fan of supps off ebay though
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    Try Piracetam first
    ..for these reasons..

    -Longer Half Life
    -Cheaper

    IMO its a bit of a hit or miss.. Unfortunately I found that I respond well to Pramiracetam @ 700~ mg + per dosage.. unlike Aniracetam or Piracetam
    though I read waaaaay slower than usual

    Smart Powders sells -Oxi -Prami -Ani (cheapest place I've found
    Cerebral Health sells -Piracetam -Noopept etc (All of them I think but they over price alot)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbrooks View Post
    Only place I could find that was ebay not a fan of supps off ebay though
    No prob, Ive been buying from them for a year with good success. Also, I buy from them off amazon if that makes any difference.
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    piracetam for algebra?


    i been trying to learn algebra for 10 years now. since 8th grade.. i cant do it.. its not sinking in, i guess i have a bad learning disability

    i just started using 2400 mg of peracitam and day with 800 mg of choline. also using sharp mind from solaray and taking some fish oil..


    will this stuff help me learn or understand math more easily? or can you recommend something that will help my brain make sense of this stuff? ..

    thanks for any and all help
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    Quote Originally Posted by seank88 View Post
    i been trying to learn algebra for 10 years now. since 8th grade.. i cant do it.. its not sinking in, i guess i have a bad learning disability

    i just started using 2400 mg of peracitam and day with 800 mg of choline. also using sharp mind from solaray and taking some fish oil..


    will this stuff help me learn or understand math more easily? or can you recommend something that will help my brain make sense of this stuff? ..

    thanks for any and all help
    I mean no offense at all by this post but if you've been trying to learn algebra for 8 years, you probably do have a learning disability. Supplements may optimize cognitive function but they won't help you learn algebra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I mean no offense at all by this post but if you've been trying to learn algebra for 8 years, you probably do have a learning disability. Supplements may optimize cognitive function but they won't help you learn algebra.
    No offense taken. i know its not guna help me learn it. but any drug that can atleast give me a fighting chance or a bit of an advantage would be awesome. i mean i wanna try this and if it dosesnt help. then try provigil or something. but i just wanted to know if anyone on here had any changes in their learning abilities from any of these supplements or drugs..
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    Quote Originally Posted by seank88 View Post
    No offense taken. i know its not guna help me learn it. but any drug that can atleast give me a fighting chance or a bit of an advantage would be awesome. i mean i wanna try this and if it dosesnt help. then try provigil or something. but i just wanted to know if anyone on here had any changes in their learning abilities from any of these supplements or drugs..
    Stimulants, Ritalin, Adderall all that prescription shizz
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    A good tutor will probably help more.
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    I run Smarter Nootropics which is just a research site about nootropics and I've spent a lot of time researching the different members of the racetam family. Piracetam is definitely the most studied of all of the racetams, but it's also one of the weakest. Aniracetam is good because its more potent than Piracetam by weight and it's also got a stimulant action on the AMPA gateways. I definitely want to suggest Noopept, which is great, it works very powerfully in very low dosages and can be taken sublingually. I also would like to suggest pramiracetam which has been studied pretty well and is also more effective than Piracetam by weight.

    My top 2 would be noopept followed by aniracetam though. Hope this info helps!
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    I would totally recommended Aniracetam in your situation. It's done wonders for me! When I got my new job.. I'm constantly having to speak in front of people and get things ready to say and etc.. (the worst part of my job!) & it used to literally make me break down.. but when a friend of mine introduced me to Aniracetam.. it was amazzzzzzing! I'm using JL Nootropics.. I love it! <3
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    I enjoyed Aniracetam as well I'd go with this one first then try the other
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    Really thats good to know and something to watch for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosaline View Post
    I would totally recommended Aniracetam in your situation. It's done wonders for me! When I got my new job.. I'm constantly having to speak in front of people and get things ready to say and etc.. (the worst part of my job!) & it used to literally make me break down.. but when a friend of mine introduced me to Aniracetam.. it was amazzzzzzing! I'm using JL Nootropics.. I love it! <3
    I've recommended Aniracetam to more people than I can think of and all but one has had amazing results. I've used JL for the last year or so and they are incredible with the delivery speed. Solid product. I recently tried some from NeuroWave and have been very happy with it. Slower delivery, but cheaper and same quality.
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    never tried any noots, r they just hyped up stims?
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    Check out Demiurge, it is very effective and it personally helped me become more outgoing and social
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