How does Methyl Synephrine differ from Synephrine HCL?
- 08-08-2012, 07:31 PM
- 08-08-2012, 07:59 PM
Methyl Synephrine is 100000x better than regular synephrine.
The addition of the methyl group on the alpha carbon of synephrine GREATLY changes the pharmacokinetics of the compound, its apples to oranges compares to regular synephrine.
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- 08-08-2012, 08:25 PM
So if I am dosing 300mg caff preworkout right now, how would that change if adding your MS to the mix?Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
08-08-2012, 08:34 PM
08-08-2012, 10:49 PM
Misunderstood my question but those will be appreciated effects for sure. How much MS would you dose with the 300mg of caff or would you pull back the caff dose and then add the MS?
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08-08-2012, 10:51 PM
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I heard people don't "feel" stimulated from MS....
08-08-2012, 10:59 PM
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08-08-2012, 11:00 PM
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08-08-2012, 11:15 PM
I've been dosing 30mg pre workout with 100mg caffeine and 1 AT2, is the MS too low to be effective?Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
08-08-2012, 11:26 PM
08-08-2012, 11:41 PM
okay gonna up it pre-cardio Friday. gonna do 100/60/1t2. I'm using these with dermatherm to help get cut before my upcoming cycleOriginally Posted by mr.cooper69
08-08-2012, 11:52 PM
But I haven't experimented big time with it and definitely not over the one pill. Might need to do that
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12-25-2012, 09:42 PM
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12-26-2012, 01:37 PM
Synephrine = great
MethylSynephrine = great with a side of awesome sauce.
Definitely feels more potent at a lower dose.
12-26-2012, 02:21 PM
Here is a pharmacology article on "synephrine": hightowerpharmacology. blogspot. com/2011/06/p-synephrine.html
Alpha-methylsynephrine has potential as a beta-agonist, however there is no evidence that this compound exists on the supplement market. It has a very short half-life and would need to be dosed high, and frequently, for any effect. It is vastly inferior to ephedrine.
The Chinese refer to beta-methoxy-synephrine as "methylsynephrine" and supplement companies take advantage of this fact and are happy to provide a (completely irrelevant) COA. Beta-methoxy-synephrine is completely inert and would only provide effect from placebo.
12-26-2012, 11:38 PM
Well, its either an incredible placebo or the products are something else entirely. I was introduced to it in a stim product not knowing anything about it, so I doubt its all in my head or the head of others.
Internet chemists have been known to be wrong.
12-27-2012, 02:36 AM
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12-27-2012, 04:57 AM
I just finished a bottle of Methyl-syn and loved it. Most days I dosed 200mg caffiene + 60mg Methyl-syn upon waking then about 6hrs later 100mg caffiene + 120mg methyl syn along with ALCAR and TTA with each of those two doses and in the the evening. Great stack, great stack.
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