Jack3d Micro FORMULA help me breakdown.

[FitModel]

Found the new formula, help me analyze:

USPLabs Jack3d Micro
1 scoop (3.65 g)
serving is 1-2 scoops (breakdown below is 1 scoop)


eNOS super Performance System 2247 mg


L-Citrulline - Amino Acid - by-product of Arginine. etc. synergistic with Arginine? (guess: 1000mg)

Arginine Nitrate - More effective then AAKG? I know many company's are adding Nitrate (creatine Nitrate, arginine nitrate etc...) (guess: 800mg)

Agmatine Sulfate - Increases NO production. Obviously the new "pump" ingridient. I like it and find it effective. (guess: 400mg)

Grape Seed (95% proanthocyanidins) Extract - anti oxident. contains resveratrol. Vasodialator. Potential (very weak) AI (guess: very little)






CNS Contractile Stimulant System 182 mg


Caffein - Obvious. (guess: 150mg. Making 2 scoops 300mg)

Norcoclaurine HCI (Norcoline) - What the heck is this?
3,4 - Dihydroxcinnamic Acid - not clue?
"but no clinical effects have been demonstrated in humans."..."Caffeic acid, which is unrelated to caffeine"Wikipedia (Caffeic Acid)


Vitamin C 50mg





Looks like most of the stims will be from the caffein but I don't know what the other two ingridients are. Scoops/servinings will definitly be "micro" lol. I would think most people will be using 2 scoops (pretty easily). Glad they included Agmatine, not sure why they also included Arginine but no Beta Alanine. I would have done Beta Alanine but no Arginine.

Obviously my breakdown of mg per scoop as just a guess.

[JonRubio]

Honestly I'm not to impressed. Just my 2 cents.

[diezel]

I've been beta testing this product. I've honestly never been so impressed with a preworkout. The energy is very clean, pumps are intense ,strength has increased significantly, and my stamina in the gym has been incredible.

[bdcc]

Honestly I'm not to impressed. Just my 2 cents.

Why not? I think the formula is solid.

[JonRubio]

Why not? I think the formula is solid.

No creatinol o phosphate, no lclt, no Rhodia, no focus ingredients. These are what I tend to look for in a preworkout. Everyone's different and those are ingredients I tend to look for in a pre.

[USPlabsRep]

No creatinol o phosphate, no lclt, no Rhodia, no focus ingredients. These are what I tend to look for in a preworkout. Everyone's different and those are ingredients I tend to look for in a pre.

I'll take that as a compliment...

[kevinhy]

Why not? I think the formula is solid.

I agree, I think it looks very effective.

No creatinol o phosphate, no lclt, no Rhodia, no focus ingredients. These are what I tend to look for in a preworkout. Everyone's different and those are ingredients I tend to look for in a pre.

Meh, I'm not really a fan of any of those in a preworkout. I would also assume the stimulants in this provide plenty of "focus".

[3clipseGT]

The one question i have since it didnt say on the directions, do you take this on off days too or strictly trainings days only?

[USPlabsRep]

The one question i have since it didnt say on the directions, do you take this on off days too or strictly trainings days only?

5 days a week, 20 workouts at 2 scoops. A month supply.

You could workout 7 days a week on a pre workout, but if you are, you are going somehting wrong.

[bdcc]

I have no experience with the focus blend but the pump blend is exactly what I would look for.

[USPlabsRep]

I have no experience with the focus blend but the pump blend is exactly what I would look for.

We'll get you a bottle from Adam at CheapUk....

[JonRubio]

Yeah I'm not bashing it in anyway. I just don't like stims for focus. I'm just more of a fan of things like focus XT. Basically, Caffeine being the only stimulant I like to have.

[uvawahoowa]

No creatinol o phosphate, no lclt, no Rhodia, no focus ingredients. These are what I tend to look for in a preworkout. Everyone's different and those are ingredients I tend to look for in a pre.

I agree in part...some lclt and/or alcar and COP or beta alanine would have been a good add. Otherwise, not bad dependent on dosing

[kswiss]

I've been beta testing this product. I've honestly never been so impressed with a preworkout. The energy is very clean, pumps are intense ,strength has increased significantly, and my stamina in the gym has been incredible.

Are you getting the same effect everyday? When Jack3d came out i liked it but i would have to cycle it take for two or three days then switch to a caffein based fat burner for a few days to keep myself from becoming immune, as with any pwo, im now taking 1mr and if i take it for more then 4 days in a row max i start to not get anything from it.

[USPlabsRep]

I have no experience with the focus blend but the pump blend is exactly what I would look for.

Actually you do, well at least with one two of the ingredients.

[bdcc]

Actually you do, well at least with one two of the ingredients.

Not with the blend as a whole. I can trust the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.

I often dabble with the ingredients in the pump blend or variations of them.

[cubsfan815]

since i am sensitive to stimulants, this actually looks like a very solid pre, that would go well with my iforce compete.. I may have to give it a try..

[mr.cooper69]

Not with the blend as a whole. I can trust the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.

I often dabble with the ingredients in the pump blend or variations of them.

3,4 dihydro isn't a CNS stimulant (in humans)...you telling me you've never stacked caffeine with alpha t2????

[Jonbero]

Pump formula is sexy.

I don't know about the stimulant formula cus I have no experience or never even heard of any of the ingredients except caffeine. But that's why I like it and maybe will try it out someday.

I'm wondering if this will be the new Craze.

[schroedes]

Bcaa's would have been a nice addition