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Old 10-30-2004, 02:45 AM   #1
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San's New CEE

CM2

Serving Size: 5.8 grams
Servings Per Container: 40


Di-L-Arginine-L-Malate 2.0 g
b-Alanine 1.6 g
Creatine-Methyl-Ester HCl 1.0 g


Would the Methyl be a big improvement in CEE? And would it be worth the $45 for 40 servings?
 
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Old 10-30-2004, 03:58 AM   #2
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Where have you seen it for 45 bucks? I haven't seen it anywhere?
 
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Old 10-30-2004, 05:02 AM   #3
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CM2

Serving Size: 5.8 grams
Servings Per Container: 40


Di-L-Arginine-L-Malate 2.0 g
b-Alanine 1.6 g
Creatine-Methyl-Ester HCl 1.0 g


Would the Methyl be a big improvement in CEE? And would it be worth the $45 for 40 servings?
Methyl? Am I missing something or does methyl creatine sound odd? Creatine Ethyl Ester HCl is a compound, but maybe there's a mistake on the methyl part?!?! :blinK:
 
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Old 10-30-2004, 07:10 AM   #4
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It's not a typo, there was a discussion going on about it over here at bodybuilding.com already:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=cm2%2A
 
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Old 10-30-2004, 03:25 PM   #5
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I only saw it on San's official site. I looked arround but couldnt find it in my usual sites.

Yeah when I saw methyl CEE I was wondering if that was a typo too. I just wanna find out if it works a lot better, seeing as there is only 1 gram in the stuff
 
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Old 10-30-2004, 03:29 PM   #6
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Well according to the bb.com posts, it breaks down into methyl alcohol which is extremely toxic.....
 
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Old 10-31-2004, 12:11 PM   #7
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Well according to the bb.com posts, it breaks down into methyl alcohol which is extremely toxic.....
Yes, but according to the same thread, the quantity of methyl alcohool that you ingest is so small that it wont do any bad... no more than a can of coke btw
 
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That thread made me wonder if CEE then converts to ethyl alcohol in any amount.

Think I'll let some people play lab rat with the methyl version before I try it. Regular CEE is doing me fine.
 





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Methanol is some pretty foul stuff. I seem to remember reading somewhere that CEE would produce ethanol once broken down, but it might have been an old PA thread as well. BTW, this stuff wouldn't be "methyl CEE" but rather CME.
 
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i personally dont trust these creatine ethyls and why the hell do all of them come with arginine? if there so potent why are they being stacked? has these NO boster ever been prove to build muscle? seems like a cheap way to hook yougn users.."ooh im all pumped up on this stuff"...just my rant and opinion
 
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i personally dont trust these creatine ethyls and why the hell do all of them come with arginine? if there so potent why are they being stacked? has these NO boster ever been prove to build muscle? seems like a cheap way to hook yougn users.."ooh im all pumped up on this stuff"...just my rant and opinion
CEE works. They add NO boosters because of the increased energy they gives i think. And to make it look better than similar products on the market.
Everyone knows that NO stuff dont build muscles
Personally I think that the only thing worth to be stacked with CEE is Citrulline malate, which has been proven to prevent energy loss in muscle tissues.
 
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Yes, but according to the same thread, the quantity of methyl alcohool that you ingest is so small that it wont do any bad... no more than a can of coke btw
No more than a can of diet coke
 
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No more than a can of diet coke
ah, yes, yes! normal coke is healthy
 
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CEE works. They add NO boosters because of the increased energy they gives i think. And to make it look better than similar products on the market.
Everyone knows that NO stuff dont build muscles
Personally I think that the only thing worth to be stacked with CEE is Citrulline malate, which has been proven to prevent energy loss in muscle tissues.
If you like CEE with Citrulline and other goodies prepare to get your credit card ready! That is all I am saying. I know of a CEE product coming out that seems very promising! I can't say anything more!
 
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If you like CEE with Citrulline and other goodies prepare to get your credit card ready! That is all I am saying. I know of a CEE product coming out that seems very promising! I can't say anything more!
hehe ok, but i have 2 bottles of CEX (the big ones) and 2 of Body Octane to finish, plus a third one ready to be shipped to me.
I definitely love Citrulline For me its the best way to start the day.
 
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Citrulline maleate rocks. NO-xplode has a Citrulline-AKG listed as an ingredient but its hard to know whether its that or all the caffiene they dump in that us responsible for all the energy I get from it.
 





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Citrulline maleate rocks. NO-xplode has a Citrulline-AKG listed as an ingredient but its hard to know whether its that or all the caffiene they dump in that us responsible for all the energy I get from it.
To be effective CM needs to be taken 6 grams a day splitted at least in 2 times.
 
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hehe ok, but i have 2 bottles of CEX (the big ones) and 2 of Body Octane to finish, plus a third one ready to be shipped to me.
I definitely love Citrulline For me its the best way to start the day.
Wow, hope we don't find out in 5 years that it causes cancer or spontaneous combustion or something crappy like that :P
 
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Wow, hope we don't find out in 5 years that it causes cancer or spontaneous combustion or something crappy like that :P
I doubt that. It has been used in France for many years as prescription drug.
 
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