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    Best preworkout?


    I'm tryin to decide between Lit-Up, Maximize V2, Jack3d, or Assault. I'm takin C4 right now but i dont feel it anymore and ive noticed in my workouts. Let me know what you think about those or any other ones worth looking into.

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    Stim free or non-stim?
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    Lot of threads devoted to this topic. Most choices fall between stims, non-stims, and combinations of bulk ingredients. Myself, I am a fan of Hemavol and some BCAAs added in with beta-alanine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahilla12
    I'm tryin to decide between Lit-Up, Maximize V2, Jack3d, or Assault. I'm takin C4 right now but i dont feel it anymore and ive noticed in my workouts. Let me know what you think about those or any other ones worth looking into.
    If you aren't feeling it anymore your best bet would be to take a couple weeks with no stimulants and go back.
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    Take sometime off stims sounds like your best bet. Neogenix BodyForge is a nice non stim, as is Omegas Ultima.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2542 View Post
    If you aren't feeling it anymore your best bet would be to take a couple weeks with no stimulants and go back.
    this you need to give your receptors a break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    Take sometime off stims sounds like your best bet. Neogenix BodyForge is a nice non stim, as is Omegas Ultima.
    x2. see other post. hehe
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    Look into preworkouts such as Ultra Reps, Hemavol, or Ultima. Stay low on the stims for awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Stim free or non-stim?
    Trick question?
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    Maybe...... My favorite pre-workout is a banana and 2 AI motivate. Perfect combo.


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    My two fav:

    Intense (substitute with Craze every other time or depends on how I feel/workout)
    Hemavol
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    Agreed with above.
    Hemavol + lclt + extra cit malate + beta alanine + alcar + lots of water and just to be different I actually have done carbohydrates about 30 min before all that. I find the pump way better when the above are taken with carbohydrates which actually isn't usually recommended around here.
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    Oops. I forgot about beta alanine. Love me some tingles.

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    I like Focus XT with 9 grams Citmal added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    Agreed with above.
    Hemavol + lclt + extra cit malate + beta alanine + alcar + lots of water and just to be different I actually have done carbohydrates about 30 min before all that. I find the pump way better when the above are taken with carbohydrates which actually isn't usually recommended around here.
    Probable one of the best stacks for anyone laying off the stims.

    I also use carbs either before or after my hemavol. Really enhances the pump!

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    don't shake a shaker bottle with pump fixx in it...


    mine blew up everywhere

    P.S- i guess i didnt read the "CAUTION" label part. none the less, very good workout on 1.5 scoops. couldn't be bothered making up my usual mix
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    don't shake a shaker bottle with pump fixx in it...


    mine blew up everywhere

    P.S- i guess i didnt read the "CAUTION" label part. none the less, very good workout on 1.5 scoops. couldn't be bothered making up my usual mix
    Same thing happened to me... Lol

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    Jacked 3d is the best pre-workout I have tried by far and I feel like there isn't a point in taking a pre-workout if it doesn't have stimulants bc all you want out of a pre-workout is to help you lift more weight and be more concentrated in the gym and your not going to get that without some form of a stimulant
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    Quote Originally Posted by burnout225
    Jacked 3d is the best pre-workout I have tried by far and I feel like there isn't a point in taking a pre-workout if it doesn't have stimulants bc all you want out of a pre-workout is to help you lift more weight and be more concentrated in the gym and your not going to get that without some form of a stimulant
    Except for pumps and focus and performance can all be increased without Stims.....
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    Craze is definitely by far my favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burnout225 View Post
    Jacked 3d is the best pre-workout I have tried by far and I feel like there isn't a point in taking a pre-workout if it doesn't have stimulants bc all you want out of a pre-workout is to help you lift more weight and be more concentrated in the gym and your not going to get that without some form of a stimulant
    really.....? not so sure about that
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    Alarm!!!! The strongest pre workout I've used! I find it better than C4, Jacked, and the pre workout from animal!!! Forgot the name.... But yea it's good
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    Quote Originally Posted by burnout225 View Post
    Jacked 3d is the best pre-workout I have tried by far and I feel like there isn't a point in taking a pre-workout if it doesn't have stimulants bc all you want out of a pre-workout is to help you lift more weight and be more concentrated in the gym and your not going to get that without some form of a stimulant
    I must disagree entirely. Jack3d is overrated especially if its not the original formula. Also I dont feel like stimulants are a necessity nor should they be. Over time I've been drawn away from that smack-in-the-face feeling of a pre-workout and looking for a more sustained support system for oxygen and nutrient flow. Becoming dependent on stimulants for increased performance in the gym is surely setting yourself up for failure down the road when (if) you cycle off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    I must disagree entirely. Jack3d is overrated especially if its not the original formula. Also I dont feel like stimulants are a necessity nor should they be. Over time I've been drawn away from that smack-in-the-face feeling of a pre-workout and looking for a more sustained support system for oxygen and nutrient flow. Becoming dependent on stimulants for increased performance in the gym is surely setting yourself up for failure down the road when (if) you cycle off.
    agreed. If you feel you "need" stims to have a good workout there is a problem there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    I must disagree entirely. Jack3d is overrated especially if its not the original formula. Also I dont feel like stimulants are a necessity nor should they be. Over time I've been drawn away from that smack-in-the-face feeling of a pre-workout and looking for a more sustained support system for oxygen and nutrient flow. Becoming dependent on stimulants for increased performance in the gym is surely setting yourself up for failure down the road when (if) you cycle off.
    A few things 1.) I never said that stimulants are a necessity but only that if you are going to take a pre work out then you should take one with a stimulant, 2.) I have only ever taken the original formula of jacked 3.) we just have different opinions because I love the smack in the face feeling and I have gotten great results with jacked. Also I do cycle off of my pre workout every so often and I have never noticed that I was lifting less weight bc I didn't take a pre workout but thats just me...
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    I like WF because of the beta alanine, gaba, there's no crash. the other ones i crash from.

    beta alanine preworkout is very important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    I like WF because of the beta alanine, gaba, there's no crash. the other ones i crash from.

    beta alanine preworkout is very important.
    I thought Beta Alanine worked by building up in your system like creatine, therefore when you take it does not matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boogyman

    I thought Beta Alanine worked by building up in your system like creatine, therefore when you take it does not matter.
    It does. Most people take it pre because the tingles are more annoying when not lifting than they are when lifting.
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    4 scoops of craze
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    Quote Originally Posted by kokobeware2
    4 scoops of craze
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    Honestly man I think you should just take a break for awhile. Maybe a week? keep caffeine to a minimum

    I try and take days off during the week. For example:
    Mon, Tue : stimmed preworkout
    Wed: stim free preworkout
    Thur, Fri : stimmed preworkout
    Sat, sun : no stims at all

    Dosing stims that way seems to keep whatever preworkout I'm using kicking hard. Just a suggestion..
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    love maximize v2! go with that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kokobeware2 View Post
    4 scoops of craze
    good god! thats nuts. wayyyy to much
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    Oh, I use Craze by DS. Its great, but IMO it is just a stim.. it is kind of incomplete. I really liked maximize from iForce and hemovol is great for non stim days.
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    Anadraulic State GT... one scoop, offered to anyone will have them online ordering their tub.
    Just look at the profile, more than just a stim:



    SERM - Blocks estrogen at the estrogen receptor, which stops its negative side effects and has the positive of boosting LH and testosterone
    ANTI-AROMATASE – Stops the converstion of testosterone into estrogen, thus boosting testosterone in another way and increasing the androgenic ratio
    pSARM – SARMs act like testosterone in the body without effecting testosterone, so its like having a "prescription" testosterone boost without the negatives
    RECEPTOR – Increased receptor quality and quantity means that the SERM, AI and pSARM testosterone effect will be doubled, giving your muscle cells the most active receptors, which build a more anabolic environment to take advantage of the increased androgenic ratio

    In A Base Of:

    CREATINE PEPTIDES - Advanced delivery creatine builds muscle and increases satellite cells. This new type of creatine is more biologically active than other types, giving even better results
    ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS – If you are not using these prior to your workout, you are robbing your muscles of the proper repair nutrients to push past your plateaus and get the most out of each workout. EAA's are best taken prior to working out, to prevent tear down
    INSULIN MIMETIC - Forced growth means pushing more of the nutrients required to build into each muscle cell. The secret to this growth is increasing the activity of the bodies natural insulin response. This is a BIG key to Anadraulic State's immediate effect
    CORTISOL BLOCK - Reduced tear down happens at the end of the workout when cortisol levels usually shoot through the roof. Anadraulic State blocks this cortisol release with key nutrients that have been proven to blunt the cortisol response, finishing off the perfect Anadraulic State
    PERFECT CARBS - Precise blend of Waxy Maize Starch and Pharmaceutical Grade Dextrose for perfect nutrient delivery

    Stimulant Complex:
    Caffeine Anhydrous
    Bitter Orange (20% Synephrine)

    Adaptogenic Complex:
    Quercetin
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    Mulberry Extract

    Amino Acid Complex:
    Whey Protein Hydrolysate
    Partially Hydrolyzed Pea Protein
    Aspartic Acid
    L-Leucine
    Fee Form Amino Acid

    Estrogen Control Complex:
    Ellagic Acid 40%
    Trans-Resveratrol 50%
    3beta-hydroxyurs-12-en-28-oic-acid 25%

    Creatine Complex:
    Creatine Monohydrate
    Beta Alanine
    Creatine Citrate / Malate
    Creatine Ethyl Ester

    pSarm Complex:
    Hibiscus Rosa Sinensis
    Osthole 80%

    Carbohydrate Complex:
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    Thumbs up on the pSARM!! There's been new research coming out on SARMs as a new drug hits the market. Obviously that's for medical use but still similar compounds are available in OTC supplements like RPM.
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