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Is my current stack safe (18 years old)?

  1.  07-13-2012  12:05 AM
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    Is my current stack safe (18 years old)?


    Listen, I've been eating out of my mind lifting harder then ever and gaining weight like crazy. I'm seirously going up 3-4 pounds a week atm because I'm bulking so hard.

    However, I'm a little worried about the supplements I'm taking at the moment.

    They are...


    T-UP BLACK

    Ingredients... (3127mg total per day)

    Sodium D-Aspartic Acid
    Massularia Acuminata
    Vitamin B6 (as Pryidoxine)
    Folic Acid (As Triamine)
    Vitmain B12 (as Cyanocobalamine)




    ERASE BY PES (50mg total per day)

    Androsta- 3,5 diene-7, 17 dione


    Testosterone Booster by Muscletech

    Ingredients...
    Rhodiola
    Ginko Extract
    Boron Citrate


    COMPOUND20 (3000mg proprietary blend per day)

    Symplocos Racemosa Extract (bark) (standardized for triterpenoids),
    N-Coumarolydopamine, N-Caffeoyldopamine



    I'm also taking a bunch of multivitamins, creatine monohydrate, creatine phosphate, creatine pyruvate, a whey protein with a bunch of amino acids, fish oils, magnesium, zinc, calcium...


    I'm eating a retarted amount of calories each day. I have no clue how many because I don't keep count but I am literally eating nonstop all day long.

    My strength increases are shooting up drastically, my libidio is up, I'm looking and feeling fuller, I'm gaining weight fast. No bad side effects other than sum back and chest acne so far.


    Am I taking dangerous supplements for my age????? Too many??? If not, I would love to add more stuff to bulk to my stack because I've never been progressing this quick before in my entire life.


    Comments, Concerns, Opinions are greatly appreciated. Also any new supps you recommend for bulking would be great thanks



  2.  07-13-2012  12:11 AM
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    I would not use Erase or any AI at age 18. I do feel you are quite reliant on supplements for an 18 year old, but it's not "unsafe" per se.
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  3.  07-13-2012  12:23 AM
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    I mean as long as I don't get ruined hormonal levels for life, gyno, or balding I'm cool. Do you think I could get that from these?

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    I wouldn't run that stuff at your age. It's not worth it in theory you should be fine. But you also don't know what your doing to your body with an AI like Erase. Your body is growing there is nothing wrong with eat, sleep and lift.
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    Okay, well what can I add to this stack to continue to gain fasterr that is safe?

  6.  07-13-2012  12:32 AM
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    Originally Posted by detroitkila93 View Post
    I mean as long as I don't get ruined hormonal levels for life, gyno, or balding I'm cool. Do you think I could get that from these?
    There is potential for the latter two, yes.
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    Why two separate threads asking the same question?

  8.  07-13-2012  12:35 AM
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    more responses.

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    Id stop the erase. And prob throw the rest away at your age. Also you only need one form of creatine not 3.

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    ** yeah but i can't get gyno cuz the erase is an anti-estrogen and anti-cortisol right? and no indications of premature balding in my family every1 has a good head of hair so i probably wouldnt bald right?

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    Originally Posted by detroitkila93 View Post
    ** yeah but i can't get gyno cuz the erase is an anti-estrogen and anti-cortisol right? and no indications of premature balding in my family every1 has a good head of hair so i probably wouldnt bald right?
    These are all "probablies." There's always a risk, and it is higher during developmental stages.
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    like how much probably?? like .01% chance they could happen or like a 20% chance they could happen, im new to all this stuff, this is my 1st time using test boosters and whatnot.

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    Originally Posted by detroitkila93
    like how much probably?? like .01% chance they could happen or like a 20% chance they could happen, im new to all this stuff, this is my 1st time using test boosters and whatnot.
    Higher for a kid in the tail end of puberty than a guy whose puberty is in the rear view mirror.

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    Originally Posted by detroitkila93 View Post
    like how much probably?? like .01% chance they could happen or like a 20% chance they could happen, im new to all this stuff, this is my 1st time using test boosters and whatnot.
    Gyno from DAA at age 18, assuming you're not totally hormonally mature...it is a real possibility, especially since many people develop gyno during puberty anyway. Aromatase inhibition is also a concern at your age since you generally don't want to mess around with estrogen until ~age 21.
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    ight well realistically im gonna continue to use them because i spent the money on them and i think theyr working pretty well, but if i see any indications of gyno/balding i will stop immediatly and then what? will the balding/gyno go bak to normal or is it permanently ****ed?

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    Originally Posted by detroitkila93 View Post
    ight well realistically im gonna continue to use them because i spent the money on them and i think theyr working pretty well, but if i see any indications of gyno/balding i will stop immediatly and then what? will the balding/gyno go bak to normal or is it permanently ****ed?
    Your mind was made up before this thread was created. I don't know what will happen, but you are taking a risk and you've been told the consequences. It's very possible that nothing bad comes of this, but it's your choice.
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    Originally Posted by detroitkila93
    ight well realistically im gonna continue to use them because i spent the money on them and i think theyr working pretty well, but if i see any indications of gyno/balding i will stop immediatly and then what? will the balding/gyno go bak to normal or is it permanently ****ed?
    "And then what?" will have to turn into achieving your goals slowly and naturally over years as opposed to within a few months, which based on your profile and stubbornness despite MrCooper's warnings, seems to be your intent.

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    alright well what else would you guys add to this stack? im trying to make as hard and strong gains as fast as possible without using prohormones or steroidss or giving myself a strong chance of fuking myself up

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    Add patience and proper diet.

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    The phuck was the reason for making a thread if you weren't gonna listen anyways? God kids are stupid these days

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