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    What would the optimal dosage and timing be for the following:

    Bitter melon
    Naringin
    Goji berry
    HCA

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    Pre meal.

    And pre workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc
    Pre meal.

    And pre workout
    Pre carb meal I am assuming...any idea on doses? Any specific extracts if I am trying to purchase them separately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    Pre carb meal I am assuming...any idea on doses? Any specific extracts if I am trying to purchase them separately?
    10:1 butter melon

    50-65% hca
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc

    10:1 butter melon

    50-65% hca
    Minimum 600 mg bitter melon 10:1

    Minimum 500 mg hca

    1000 mg hca 100 min prior to exercise

    Naringin pre meal its selective to muscle tissue at high doses
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Minimum 600 mg bitter melon 10:1

    Minimum 500 mg hca

    1000 mg hca 100 min prior to exercise

    Naringin pre meal its selective to muscle tissue at high doses
    So if the Garcinia Cambogi is standardized 50%, would that mean I should take 2000 Garcinia Cambogi to get the 1000mg HCA for the PWO dose?
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    It's 2000 mg garcinia Cambodia 50% 100 min pre workout.

    You can use half that much for post workout.
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    Oral hydroxycitrate supplementation enhances glycogen synthesis in exercised human skeletal muscle.

    AuthorsCheng IS, et al. Show all Journal
    Br J Nutr. 2012 Apr;107(7):1048-55. Epub 2011 Aug 9.

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    Department of Physical Education, National Taichung University of Education, Taichung, Taiwan, ROC.

    Abstract
    Glycogen stored in skeletal muscle is the main fuel for endurance exercise. The present study examined the effects of oral hydroxycitrate (HCA) supplementation on post-meal glycogen synthesis in exercised human skeletal muscle. Eight healthy male volunteers (aged 220 (se 03) years) completed a 60-min cycling exercise at 70-75 % VO?max and received HCA or placebo in a crossover design repeated after a 7 d washout period. They consumed 500 mg HCA or placebo with a high-carbohydrate meal (2 g carbohydrate/kg body weight, 80 % carbohydrate, 8 % fat, 12 % protein) for a 3-h post-exercise recovery. Muscle biopsy samples were obtained from vastus lateralis immediately and 3 h after the exercise. We found that HCA supplementation significantly lowered post-meal insulin response with similar glucose level compared to placebo. The rate of glycogen synthesis with the HCA meal was approximately onefold higher than that with the placebo meal. In contrast, GLUT4 protein level after HCA supplementation was significantly decreased below the placebo level, whereas expression of fatty acid translocase (FAT)/CD36 mRNA was significantly increased above the placebo level. Furthermore, HCA supplementation significantly increased energy reliance on fat oxidation, estimated by the gaseous exchange method. However, no differences were found in circulating NEFA and glycerol levels with the HCA meal compared with the placebo meal. The present study reports the first evidence that HCA supplementation enhanced glycogen synthesis rate in exercised human skeletal muscle and improved post-meal insulin sensitivity.
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