A great stack for serious muscle gain.

  1. A great stack for serious muscle gain.


    Real gain is a weight gainer with casin,soy,whey all of the proteins that u need in it to gain the ultimate weight but lean,xtend is a no carb no sugar pre workout supplement and works great .vastropin is a Nitro so you can get the serious pumps while working out veins poping out,and last but jot least dark matter is the real deal of post creatin drink that doesn't taste bad at all.

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  2. Realgains is solid. - > I still prefer the new Scivation gainer.
    Xtend isn't a "preworkout" but it's nice. -> I prefer Core ABC or Allmax Aminocore.
    Vasotropin lacks any in vivo data for the doses of ingredients they use. - > I prefer SNS Agmatine or iForce Hemavol
    And dark matter is junk. - > I prefer Genomyx Protocol
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Realgains is solid. - > I still prefer the new Scivation gainer.
    Xtend isn't a "preworkout" but it's nice. -> I prefer Core ABC or Allmax Aminocore.
    Vasotropin lacks any in vivo data for the doses of ingredients they use. - > I prefer SNS Agmatine or iForce Hemavol
    And dark matter is junk. - > I prefer Genomyx Protocol
    Agreed, Real Gains was decent.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Realgains is solid. - > I still prefer the new Scivation gainer.
    Xtend isn't a "preworkout" but it's nice. -> I prefer Core ABC or Allmax Aminocore.
    Vasotropin lacks any in vivo data for the doses of ingredients they use. - > I prefer SNS Agmatine or iForce Hemavol
    And dark matter is junk. - > I prefer Genomyx Protocol
    this x2. couldn't have said it better myself. for post-workout i'd prefer whole food usually, but protocol has a nice profile.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Realgains is solid. - > I still prefer the new Scivation gainer.
    Xtend isn't a "preworkout" but it's nice. -> I prefer Core ABC or Allmax Aminocore.
    Vasotropin lacks any in vivo data for the doses of ingredients they use. - > I prefer SNS Agmatine or iForce Hemavol
    And dark matter is junk. - > I prefer Genomyx Protocol
    Yeah your write xtend isn't a pre workout it's a during work out supplement .now as far as vastropin I check the reviews out before buying it and it had some horrible reviews but yet I tried a 2month supply and maybe for me because everyone is different it worked great .every time I took it I had greats blood flow as far as my veins poping out like a tomato vine.lol I have been takin these products for at least 3months total and got serious physic gains that to the point people swear im on roids.i weigh in 229lb,7%bf ,210%water ,19inch biceps,34inch waist,29inch thighs 43inch back so you tell me if these products don't work.and of course dieting right And have your meals as scheduled.i was not always like this as 3years ago I weighed in 167lb with a fast metabolism and I'm 24years in age .just passing on some friendly advice

  6. Agreed Dark Matter is junk. You'd be far better off with Creatine Mono and Protocol.

  7. dark matter is terrible IMO
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