whats the newest trend for full detox?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce

    I'm not going to attempt to refute the "amount of toxins higher" but where is the proof that any of these diets make you healthier? We don't have any medical studies that I know of that prove detox diets work or are even necessary. Sky rocketing disease rates? We LIVE longer than at any other time in history. Of course some of these rates are higher, we aren't dying at age 40 anymore. And I'd love to see a study where detox diets have anything to do with autism.

    http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_...promote-health

    "Our bodies are remarkable systems that filter out toxins on an ongoing basis. The organs responsible for detoxification are the liver, lungs, kidneys, and skin. When nutrients and other substances first enter the body the first place they go is the liver, which filters out and eliminates harmful toxins such as drugs and alcohol. Additionally, the kidneys filter out wastes by creating urine for excretion. The skin allows us to sweat out toxins, and the lungs allow us to filter the air that we breathe.

    Since our bodies are primarily water--around 70%--it makes sense that staying hydrated through drinking adequate amounts of water also helps us stay healthy. However, to date there is no scientific evidence to support the idea that water flushes out toxins."

    http://www.bidmc.org/YourHealth/Holi...Chunk****100544

    And that was with a 2 second google search. At the very least I'd say the "need" is quite debatable. Some of the detox diets seem much harder on the system than clean eating would be! You could be right, but I think either side assuming 100% victory here is a bit disingenuous.
    The posters arguments were not with trendy detox diets. He said in general detox was stupid. There are several ways to help ur body detox such as staying hydrated having a good diet and utlizing saunas etc. I'm opposed to these trendy things as well but a lot of detox science coming out has a ton of merit. Little things we can do everyday makes a big difference. Using all organic products and staying away from typical household chemicals, detergents, cosmetics etc.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    The posters arguments were not with trendy detox diets. He said in general detox was stupid. There are several ways to help ur body detox such as staying hydrated having a good diet and utlizing saunas etc. I'm opposed to these trendy things as well but a lot of detox science coming out has a ton of merit. Little things we can do everyday makes a big difference. Using all organic products and staying away from typical household chemicals, detergents, cosmetics etc.
    Well it certainly evolved as such. The problem is everyone is arguing completely different things, especially if their original point got called out. I could not agree more with avoiding chemicals, detergents, etc...and many of the "detox" ideas espoused here so far are ones I'm already on board with!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by chimeranD View Post
    Who's to say it's not diet, or lifestyle, or many genetic factors and people being in such high proximity to each other causing it? The fact is, we don't know what causes these in such high amounts, and detoxing may not do anything besides hurt your body worse. I'm still going to firmly believe in a good diet rich in fruits and vegetables along with whatever else I need. Been doing that for some time and never felt better, why bother going on a specific diet that isn't going to do anything that my diet isn't already?

    This too.



    lol the fruits and vegetables you eat have artificial hormones and are not natural like they use to be, have been sprayed with chemicals and other shiz...so as much as you try to be healthy you can't unless you have your own garden..lol

  4. A bit off topic, but for those that follow Layne Norton on facebook...he had a few posts the other day about organic being completely worthless compared to inorganic...

    Thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    The posters arguments were not with trendy detox diets. He said in general detox was stupid. There are several ways to help ur body detox such as staying hydrated having a good diet and utlizing saunas etc. I'm opposed to these trendy things as well but a lot of detox science coming out has a ton of merit. Little things we can do everyday makes a big difference. Using all organic products and staying away from typical household chemicals, detergents, cosmetics etc.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24
    A bit off topic, but for those that follow Layne Norton on facebook...he had a few posts the other day about organic being completely worthless compared to inorganic...

    Thoughts?
    I think that's BS. Deffinite benifit with organic. U can't measure/scale quality of life.
    That's like saying posion is the same as no posion.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    I think that's BS. Deffinite benifit with organic. U can't measure/scale quality of life.
    That's like saying posion is the same as no posion.
    I was on the fence about it myself, as he raised some valid points and I try to avoid simplifying complex situations like you have here.

    When I get home I'll post some of the literature he offered for people to look over before they started shouting out what they "believe."

  7. Hormones in my fruits, eh? lol

    I hope we all realize that synthetic pesticides are now safer than natural pesticides...and even better, they keep pests out of your food. If we switched all world farming to organic methods...we'd be short on food to the tune of about half of the population. There's a reason that people eating these foods aren't just randomly dropping dead. There is even some evidence that organic foods are LESS nutrient dense than non-organically farmed foods.

    The BS about hormones in our meats is overblown as well. Yes, some livestock is "juiced" up. How this means eating their muscle is bad is beyond me. Even if there were trace amounts of hormones in the meat, I strongly doubt they would survive the preserving/cooking process and I doubt even more strongly that they'd be orally bioavailable. There's a reason Pat Arnold worked at ErgoPharm and not a steakhouse.

  8. For example look at bpa's
    Raise estrogen levels. Kill testosterone and cuases cancer.
    Most supermarkets buy fruits Covered in it because it gives it a shine. Like a wax coating.

  9. That's y my boys drink out of glass. Bottles.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kojack View Post
    lol the fruits and vegetables you eat have artificial hormones and are not natural like they use to be, have been sprayed with chemicals and other shiz...so as much as you try to be healthy you can't unless you have your own garden..lol
    Lol so since I say I eat a lot of fruits and veggies that means I got them all from a supermarket? I do live in the country with dozens of local farms as well as farmers markets weekly, so think before you talk kiddo.
    Quote Originally Posted by D3Baseball View Post
    The BS about hormones in our meats is overblown as well. Yes, some livestock is "juiced" up. How this means eating their muscle is bad is beyond me. Even if there were trace amounts of hormones in the meat, I strongly doubt they would survive the preserving/cooking process and I doubt even more strongly that they'd be orally bioavailable. There's a reason Pat Arnold worked at ErgoPharm and not a steakhouse.
    I will say that locally farmed beef I get is MUCH more flavorful than something purchased at the supermarket, as well as cheaper and I can buy it in bulk and pack a freezer or two

  11. Quote Originally Posted by kojack View Post
    lol the fruits and vegetables you eat have artificial hormones and are not natural like they use to be, have been sprayed with chemicals and other shiz...so as much as you try to be healthy you can't unless you have your own garden..lol
    Lol so since I say I eat a lot of fruits and veggies that means I got them all from a supermarket? I do live in the country with dozens of local farms as well as farmers markets weekly, so think before you talk
    Quote Originally Posted by D3Baseball View Post
    The BS about hormones in our meats is overblown as well. Yes, some livestock is "juiced" up. How this means eating their muscle is bad is beyond me. Even if there were trace amounts of hormones in the meat, I strongly doubt they would survive the preserving/cooking process and I doubt even more strongly that they'd be orally bioavailable. There's a reason Pat Arnold worked at ErgoPharm and not a steakhouse.
    I will say that locally farmed beef I get is MUCH more flavorful than something purchased at the supermarket, as well as cheaper and I can buy it in bulk and pack a freezer or two
    Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    For example look at bpa's
    Raise estrogen levels. Kill testosterone and cuases cancer.
    Most supermarkets buy fruits Covered in it because it gives it a shine. Like a wax coating.
    You will likely kill yourself by overeating those foods before getting the effects of those BPA's. Yet another health scare with little to no ground to stand on.

  12. I've never done a detox, though I drink alot of water and oximega greens.
    I guess I never really felt my body needed a detox, except maybe after the holidays

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  13. Good thread!

  14. I can tell you the fruits and veggies and meat in Afghanistan taste a whole lot better than in the states....

  15. Quote Originally Posted by kojack
    I can tell you the fruits and veggies and meat in Afghanistan taste a whole lot better than in the states....
    Uh, we are going to disagree on this one lol
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    Uh, we are going to disagree on this one lol
    lol...granted there isnt much fruits here but the mulberries, apples, and cantaloupes are good. we dont get much out here in this vsp.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    I think a lot of detox products are scams, however I think the overall concept of detox is fairly well documented and having experienced it a few times, I believe it. As a species we are indeed swimming in chemical compounds that our bodies were never meant to deal with. Whatever the liver cannot deal with can get stored in cells and this too is detailed in the literature. Dr's are great, but generally only after something is already broken.
    So true! A lot of supplements and other product offers right now are scam. But for me, the newest trend for full detox that is totally not a scam is this chlorella supplement from a doctor named Mercola. I've tried using it for over a month now and suprisingly, I really feel that my immune system is a lot stronger than before. No kidding. Try it and see for yourself.

  18. Oh lord, you dun goofed giving money to Mercola. He has spent his entire adult life spreading bull****.
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