Thanks man--I appreciate it. Do you happen to know why the two do not "work" together?
Thanks again-I take a VERY low dose of lexapro-10mg daily for generalized anxiety, but I drink a ton of caffeine and used stimmed pre-workouts...I have a very high tolerance to 1,3 and other stims.
Thanks man--so stay clear of all products that are proven to work ; )
I've had problems with SSRIs and Yohimbine before. I try to use non-stim fat burning options such as Lean Xtreme. I've used EC in the past with no problems as well.
What type of problems did you have? Do you mind sharing?
Constant anxiety attack that lasted for 3 days while the yohimbine worked its way out of my system.
You ever used oxyelite pro? That's the one I'm considering.
Agreed. This one time I took some yohimbine with a big ol block of tyramine containing cheese. Fun afternoon. And by fun, I mean the worst day of my life.
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No doubt- his information is very helpful. Wish you could rep from an iPhone
Nothing personal, but I don't use USP Labs products.
Was thinking about dexaprine--what kind of results did you see?
Dexaprine should be fine. Please trust me that you do not want to try anything with Rauwolscine.
Thanks--I appreciate it. How exactly does the Rauwolscine interact with the SSRI?
Essentially an alpha-2 antagonist like rauwolscine can cause an increase in serotonin levels by enhancing serotonergic neurotransmission by inhibiting receptors that decrease serotonin transmission and stimulating receptors that increase transmission. Seeing as an SSRI is already increasing serotonin levels, this can leave you with "too much serotonin" when on an SSRI, and can lead to Serotonin Symptom, which can be life threatening, but more common sides would probably be headaches, vomitting, nausea, and problems with coordination etc. (I suggest looking this up). Basically, rauwolscine has the potential to enhance the effects of your SSRI, but to an unwanted degree that can be uncomfortable and dangerous.
Exactly this^^^ Best case scenario, you feel so crappy that you won't even workout...best case.
Thanks again. In that case, I should probably sell this unopened bottle of OEP in the cabinet...
Yohimbe is a known anxiogenic, so it probably would not be helpful when trying to come off an SSRI.
10mg is pretty low, but you're going to want to speak with your physician about weaning off. Definitely don't go cold turkey ever off of an SSRI. You'd probably only have to do 5mg for a month, if your doctor thinks that is even necessary.
The new Dexaprine is going to have Rauwolscine so you might want to pick up some of the old version if you can still get it.
Good lookin out, I was gonna try this but now I know to steer clear. Hopefully I can try out some of the old version before it's not around anymore.
DS Lean Xtreme
Thanks allie--appreciate it.
SSRIs can make a huge positive change in some people's lives, and if you don't get any side effects from them, why not improve your quality of life? You can get cut without fat burners, it's just a little harder.
I think you are well within reason to be concerned about that. I am as well. I had liver cancer years ago, so I pay close attention to that.
Is this true? I know it is for nsaids but never heard of that with SSRIs.
Sort of, but that original statement is misleading. They do affect the liver because they are a drug and are metabolized by cytochrome P 450. There have been documented accounts of it causing issues with the liver, but it is extremely rare and usually requires liver issues to begin with. It also depends on the SSRI itself.
Admittedly, I did not elaborate enough in my post and I want to thank Aleksandar for clarifying, he is spot on that although cases are rare and contigent upon factors such as pre-existing conditions and the SSRI itself, Overall health, lifestyle and bodybuilding supplementation can exacerbate the stress/demand on the liver.
Agreed. Physical and blood work is always a good idea no matter what you're taking
Feather-are you on an SSRI?
Sometimes different stim products affect people differently. Some have anxiety so bad that they need to stay away from stims period in their diet.
Not at all
It's definitely what I would recommend if you are having issues with an SSRI interacting with supps. You could even add caffeine too. The only thing is that some people have anxiety that is triggered by use of stims, but that isn't from an interaction between drugs.
May have to give that a try. I drink around 2 cups coffee and 3 diet cokes a day; caffeine doesn't bother me too much. Stims to any degree don't seem to bother. I've used varying stimmed preworkouts with no problems--other than a crash after a workout!Not at all
No anxiety in people with preexisting conditions and on meds for anxiety?
Same here. I can do any stim, it's the lesser talked about ingredients that are added in sometimes that you have to watch out for.
I heard the new Dexaprine formula has a chem SSRI users should stay away from, IIRC. I'm not sure off the top of my head though and I don't have access to the ingredient label .
New dexaprine has rauwolscine
True. I meant me. Lol. I should of clarified that! Good looks! I actually have been on anti-psychotics and anti-depressants for over 5 years and had no issue with the new Dexaprine. I have been off meds for 1 year, however. So yes I have a pre-existing diagnosis and so far so good.
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