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  1. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc
    I run 2g ALA in my intra workout mix of lysine, leucine, and Creapure. I of course use mojito crystal lite sweetner in there to flavor . im an advid low carber
    Wow!
    2g. That's some big dosing lol.
    Interesting. Why the lysine? I heard it increase gh but that's why I take it pre bed with AAKG.
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  2. heres why:

    Whole-body leucine and lysine metabolism: response to dietary protein intake in young men
    K. J. Motil, D. E. Matthews, D. M. Bier, J. F. Burke, H. N. Munro, and V. R. Young
    Abstract
    Whole-body leucine and lysine metabolism was explored in young adult men by a primed constant intravenous infusion of a mixture of L-[1–13C]leucine and L-[alpha-15N]lysine over a 4-h period. Subjects were studied after an overnight fast (postabsorptive state) or while consuming hourly meals (fed state) after adaptation to diets providing either a surfeit level of protein (1.5 g.kg body-1.day-1), a level approximating maintenance requirements (marginal intake) (0.6 g.kg body wt-1.day-1), or a grossly inadequate level (0.1 g.kg-1.day-1). The change in protein intake from a marginal to a surfeit level was associated with an increased leucine flux and incorporation of leucine into body protein. In the fed state, oxidation of leucine increased sharply and release of leucine from tissue protein diminished. When dietary protein intake was reduced from the requirement to inadequate level, leucine flux and body protein synthesis and protein breakdown were reduced, together with a smaller reduction in leucine oxidation. The response of the metabolism of [15N]lysine was responsible for maintenance of leucine and other essential amino acid economy, and they appear to be related to the nitrogen and amino acid requirements of the subject. These findings also demonstrate an effect of meals, modulated by their protein content, on the dynamics of whole-body amino acid metabolism.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc
    heres why:

    Whole-body leucine and lysine metabolism: response to dietary protein intake in young men
    K. J. Motil, D. E. Matthews, D. M. Bier, J. F. Burke, H. N. Munro, and V. R. Young
    Abstract
    Whole-body leucine and lysine metabolism was explored in young adult men by a primed constant intravenous infusion of a mixture of L-[1-13C]leucine and L-[alpha-15N]lysine over a 4-h period. Subjects were studied after an overnight fast (postabsorptive state) or while consuming hourly meals (fed state) after adaptation to diets providing either a surfeit level of protein (1.5 g.kg body-1.day-1), a level approximating maintenance requirements (marginal intake) (0.6 g.kg body wt-1.day-1), or a grossly inadequate level (0.1 g.kg-1.day-1). The change in protein intake from a marginal to a surfeit level was associated with an increased leucine flux and incorporation of leucine into body protein. In the fed state, oxidation of leucine increased sharply and release of leucine from tissue protein diminished. When dietary protein intake was reduced from the requirement to inadequate level, leucine flux and body protein synthesis and protein breakdown were reduced, together with a smaller reduction in leucine oxidation. The response of the metabolism of [15N]lysine was responsible for maintenance of leucine and other essential amino acid economy, and they appear to be related to the nitrogen and amino acid requirements of the subject. These findings also demonstrate an effect of meals, modulated by their protein content, on the dynamics of whole-body amino acid metabolism.
    Looks like it's going into my pink lemonade intra workout drink.


    Edit: do they give a dosing or luecine ratio?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    Coop is well educated in this stuff. BRO LOVE!!!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Your call. I see no need to complicate things. If you want to essentially block calories/carbs, add gymnema and/or berberine.
    Approx. how many/what percentage of carbs would the gymnema (say in slin sane) block? Would this happen even in the pre-bed dose?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Looks like it's going into my pink lemonade intra workout drink.


    Edit: do they give a dosing or luecine ratio?
    i do a 3:1 ratio

  7. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    i do a 3:1 ratio
    3:1 Lysine:Leucine ratio or vice versa?

  8. 15g leucine and 5g lysine.

    3:1 leucine:lysine ratio

    I add 5-10g creatine an 2g ala

  9. Repost sorry

  10. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc
    15g leucine and 5g lysine.

    3:1 leucine:lysine ratio

    I add 5-10g creatine an 2g ala
    Thanks.
    RecoverBro ELITE

  11. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc

    you dont have to worry about making your own anymore, Recompadrol is right around the corner!

    If prices for banaba continue to go up i will do a V2 of it. You wont be disappointed.
    I'd like to see a v2 anyhow.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by StackedCop View Post
    If you could formulate a nutrient repartitioner what ingredients would you use and what dose?
    We haven't finished formulating it yet, but it's close!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    heres why:

    Whole-body leucine and lysine metabolism: response to dietary protein intake in young men
    K. J. Motil, D. E. Matthews, D. M. Bier, J. F. Burke, H. N. Munro, and V. R. Young
    Abstract
    Whole-body leucine and lysine metabolism was explored in young adult men by a primed constant intravenous infusion of a mixture of L-[1–13C]leucine and L-[alpha-15N]lysine over a 4-h period. Subjects were studied after an overnight fast (postabsorptive state) or while consuming hourly meals (fed state) after adaptation to diets providing either a surfeit level of protein (1.5 g.kg body-1.day-1), a level approximating maintenance requirements (marginal intake) (0.6 g.kg body wt-1.day-1), or a grossly inadequate level (0.1 g.kg-1.day-1). The change in protein intake from a marginal to a surfeit level was associated with an increased leucine flux and incorporation of leucine into body protein. In the fed state, oxidation of leucine increased sharply and release of leucine from tissue protein diminished. When dietary protein intake was reduced from the requirement to inadequate level, leucine flux and body protein synthesis and protein breakdown were reduced, together with a smaller reduction in leucine oxidation. The response of the metabolism of [15N]lysine was responsible for maintenance of leucine and other essential amino acid economy, and they appear to be related to the nitrogen and amino acid requirements of the subject. These findings also demonstrate an effect of meals, modulated by their protein content, on the dynamics of whole-body amino acid metabolism.
    How does this effect a person with normal protein intake?

  15. @ USP:

    Probably not so much. I train fasted, and like the idea of it possibly helping. So far, I like how its going.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    @ USP:

    Probably not so much. I train fasted, and like the idea of it possibly helping. So far, I like how its going.
    Get us updated on the progress. I'm of the mindset of you'll never know until you try...

  17. For sure,

    Btw, C20 is looking VERY promising, congrats on bringing it to the market!! people are loving it. I can only imagine the stacking capabilities of it

  18. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    We haven't finished formulating it yet, but it's close!
    Looking forward to this natty!!


  19. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    We haven't finished formulating it yet, but it's close!
    Such a tease...
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    We haven't finished formulating it yet, but it's close!
    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Such a tease...

    I am intrigued...
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Jonbero

    Man that nitrogen is going to hurt.
    ****ing LOL.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    We haven't finished formulating it yet, but it's close!
    Waiting for more info


  23. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh

    I am intrigued...
    Ditto.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    I am intrigued...
    I think we all are!


  25. I love Glycobol + Agmatine for this. Simple, effective.
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