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simple: if im aiming for 200g of pro and use 20g of bcaa's does it mean i can eat 180g of whole food and still meet my macro goals?
this would play a huge role in people who cut and mega dose bcaas...Yes they should be counted.
Interestingly, BCAAs have more calories per gram than almost any other amino acid (~6 kcals)
It's all about consistency. If you are losing weight without counting BCAAs, then continue not counting them, and when you make a dietary adjustment due to weight stalling, continue not to count the BCAAs. My post was merely so that people understand that the reality of the matter is BCAAs contain ~6 kcals per gram.this would play a huge role in people who cut and mega dose bcaas...
gotcha...It's all about consistency. If you are losing weight without counting BCAAs, then continue not counting them, and when you make a dietary adjustment due to weight stalling, continue not to count the BCAAs. My post was merely so that people understand that the reality of the matter is BCAAs contain ~6 kcals per gram.
I dont count the BCAAssimple: if im aiming for 200g of pro and use 20g of bcaa's does it mean i can eat 180g of whole food and still meet my macro goals?
Well we're talking about if BCAA count as protein, not that one shouldn't count the caloriesthis would play a huge role in people who cut and mega dose bcaas...
if youre talking about my original question it was hypethetical, im confused on the bolded phrase above....I don't count them and last I checked Layne doesn't either. If you're stressing over 100 kcals of aminos that are spiking MPS you're not focused on the big picture.
He means Layne Norton.if youre talking about my original question it was hypethetical, im confused on the bolded phrase above....
Reference?Interestingly, BCAAs have more calories per gram than almost any other amino acid (~6 kcals)
Well, BCAA can be considered incomplete protein, so i'm not sure we should count them in our protein intake,He means Layne Norton.
And to the poster above, if they count calorically, they also count as a protein source.
?Well, BCAA can be considered incomplete protein, so i'm not sure we should count them in our protein intake,
also don't they have less calories x gr than whole protein?
Of course this is just to chat about it because personally I like to keep things simple, I count macros only, meaning
I don't count the protein traces in my fats, as well as I don't count fat traces in my protein sources, etc..
it makes easier to count and keep tracks of things and most important easier to adjust things in the diet if something's wrong.
Protein is protein thats protein. All of it gets broken down into amino acids and distributed as needed. I can roll with that, dont fix whats not broken.?
Incomplete protein vs complete is irrelevant in the context of a high protein diet rich in complete protein sources. ALL protein sources count; however, as I said before, consistency is the key. If you weren't counting them before, don't start now, as your approach is clearly working.
Personally speaking, I count all amino acids (even BCAAs) at 4 cals/gram. Micromanaging each individual amino acid simply isn't worth the time.So just because the FDA says you cant count the calories from them they are marketed as calorie free....thats complete bull****...but im not surprised.
If you want the calorie breakdown to nearly any amino acid, go here and select the amino acid of choice: http://www.bulknutrients.com.au/amino-acids
Australia puts it on the nutrition label. I realize this is another shop...but i cant really see many people on this board importing from Australia- nutra is cheaper. This was more for informational purposes.
Calories printed on the FDA labels are based on the actual caloric value of energy stored in the item itself. Not necessarily what your body utilizes. NET calories dont equal GROSS calories. Perfect example: broccoli. All the carbs are dietary fiber that, yes, have a caloric value but because humans lack the enzyme to break down cellulose so they are metabolically inert in our system and we get 0.So just because the FDA says you cant count the calories from them they are marketed as calorie free....thats complete bull****...but im not surprised.
If you want the calorie breakdown to nearly any amino acid, go here: http://www.bulknutrients.com.au/amino-acids
Australia puts it on the nutrition label.
I'm not saying nobody should amigo, just saying its really not a necessity. I know a lot of forum bros don't and they maintain great physiques but I was just giving an example of someone who knows their stuff and still doesn't count them so all of us who don't count have a more legitimate argument than just saying 'bro relax, they're BCAAs'. Get what I'm saying loli know the reference, just wondering since layne doesnt count them means nobody should?
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Incomplete protein vs complete is irrelevant in the context of a high protein diet rich in complete protein sources. ALL protein sources count; however, as I said before, consistency is the key. If you weren't counting them before, don't start now, as your approach is clearly working.
Makes senseProtein is protein thats protein. All of it gets broken down into amino acids and distributed as needed. I can roll with that, dont fix whats not broken.
i know what youre saying, i would only see a need to count if one was mega dosing but for 10g im not worried about 40-60 cals thats not being counted...I'm not saying nobody should amigo, just saying its really not a necessity. I know a lot of forum bros don't and they maintain great physiques but I was just giving an example of someone who knows their stuff and still doesn't count them so all of us who don't count have a more legitimate argument than just saying 'bro relax, they're BCAAs'. Get what I'm saying lol
Respect.Makes sense
I never counted them, mine was just curiosity
I eat the same things everyday, I counted macros and calories once,
and that was it
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