best form of carnitine for....

  1. best form of carnitine for....


    transporting fatty acids to mitochondria...in other words, which best helps burn fat as energy


  2. they all serve a purpose...i like lclt personally
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  3. Google "clarifying the carnitines ". Refer to paragraph titled "carnitine for fat loss"
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  4. ^^^ great advice as usual

  5. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    they all serve a purpose...i like lclt personally
    As do I, 2 g daily with my 4 caps of X-Factor serves me well!

  6. Here we go again with the misinformation.

    If anything, it's PLCAR.

  7. Injectable form for maximum absorption

  8. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    they all serve a purpose...i like lclt personally
    x2 I love LCLT, I see small effects from GPLC and nothing from Propionyl-L-Carnitine.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Here we go again with the misinformation.

    If anything, it's PLCAR.
    What about ALCAR?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    What about ALCAR?
    For elevating muscle carnitine, PLCAR is the best. I hope those using LCLT are prepared to take it with a ton of carbs for 6 months straight.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    For elevating muscle carnitine, PLCAR is the best. I hope those using LCLT are prepared to take it with a ton of carbs for 6 months straight.
    Ok... I'll get some plcar,, but I already own ALCAR,,, how is it best taken and what exact purposes does it serve?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    Ok... I'll get some plcar,, but I already own ALCAR,,, how is it best taken and what exact purposes does it serve?
    Don't get me wrong, ALCAR is a great carnitine form. I personally feel that pursuing elevated muscle carnitine is an efficient way to put such valuable ingredients to use. ALCAR is great for cognitive purposes, positive effects on libido/erection index/testosterone/combating mental fatigue/combating ADHD in lacking/afflicted individuals, antioxidant purposes, other health purposes, etc...

  13. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Don't get me wrong, ALCAR is a great carnitine form. I personally feel that pursuing elevated muscle carnitine is an efficient way to put such valuable ingredients to use. ALCAR is great for cognitive purposes, positive effects on libido/erection index/testosterone/combating mental fatigue/combating ADHD in lacking/afflicted individuals, antioxidant purposes, other health purposes, etc...
    But not for converting fat to energy?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Here we go again with the misinformation.

    If anything, it's PLCAR.
    References? Or is this your opinion?
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  15. Deja vu... seems I have seen you two guys bump brains more than a few times,, LOL.... *sits and watches*
    Every time you two debate I end up spending money!!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    References? Or is this your opinion?
    I already posted the reference when it was requested in another thread. I can't dig it up again (home for the weekend) but you can search my post history.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I already posted the reference when it was requested in another thread. I can't dig it up again (home for the weekend) but you can search my post history.
    You post your opinion a lot and I'm not looking through all of them. We can all wait until you get back to wherever.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    You post your opinion a lot and I'm not looking through all of them. We can all wait until you get back to wherever.
    I post my opinion a lot? If it is relevant, yes I do, seeing as I am an individual. If I am going to claim scientific backing, I always provide evidence.

  19. I feel like this question is just pulling hairs they all work well

  20. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    I feel like this question is just pulling hairs they all work well
    Unfortunately, they don't work very well (or at least, efficiently) for fat loss.

    I took the liberty of finding the name of the PLCAR study for those who have full text access:

    Propionyl-L-Carnitine
    1988
    Wiseman and Brogden

  21. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Unfortunately, they don't work very well (or at least, efficiently) for fat loss.

    I took the liberty of finding the name of the PLCAR study for those who have full text access:

    Propionyl-L-Carnitine
    1988
    Wiseman and Brogden
    I suppose that is a relative term. Though compared to not using them at all you are bound to see some benefits. Experimenting with alcar over the past week has made me stop using it entirely. I have started to sweat way too much on it. I sweat enough as it is lol

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Unfortunately, they don't work very well (or at least, efficiently) for fat loss.

    I took the liberty of finding the name of the PLCAR study for those who have full text access:

    Propionyl-L-Carnitine
    1988
    Wiseman and Brogden
    Thank you for the ref. And me saying that you post your opinion a lot was not meant as a slam. You post all the time and searching for you and the word carnitine brings up a load of posts. My point (long drawn out as it is) is that if you don't think a product or ingredient doesn't work or doesn't work enough for what it costs, then say that. Many people respect your opinion and if you say PLCAR, then they might very well go out and buy PLCAR based solely on that.
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  23. LCLT is still good for increasing AR receptors amoungst other benefits T support etc, (studies behind it)
    ive always intended to use this as a staple in the future?
    Or is PLCAR better?

  24. OP i believe for fat transportaion inj carnitine is superior

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    Thank you for the ref. And me saying that you post your opinion a lot was not meant as a slam. You post all the time and searching for you and the word carnitine brings up a load of posts. My point (long drawn out as it is) is that if you don't think a product or ingredient doesn't work or doesn't work enough for what it costs, then say that. Many people respect your opinion and if you say PLCAR, then they might very well go out and buy PLCAR based solely on that.
    Understood sir. I just figured that given our past...well you know . The PLCAR part is not my opinion...as per the study, it has a significant rate of entry into the cell. You don't have to worry about the bonded propionyl group because the research also elucidates that it is metabolized into propionyl-coa and l-carnitine, the latter of which is what OP is after.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    LCLT is still good for increasing AR receptors amoungst other benefits T support etc, (studies behind it)
    ive always intended to use this as a staple in the future?
    Or is PLCAR better?
    Quote Originally Posted by miniarnold View Post
    OP i believe for fat transportaion inj carnitine is superior
    I can't stress this enough: in my opinion, the benefits of the various carnitine forms outweigh any fat burnining/substrate utilization changes through elevating muscle carnitine. There is no "better" carnitine. They all possess unique benefits. LCLT will increase androgen receptor density, but I feel that its true benefits are the effects that are, in turn, responsible for the increased AR density: improved cell protection from exercise, increased recovery, and increased VO2 max.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, ALCAR is a great carnitine form. I personally feel that pursuing elevated muscle carnitine is an efficient way to put such valuable ingredients to use. ALCAR is great for cognitive purposes, positive effects on libido/erection index/testosterone/combating mental fatigue/combating ADHD in lacking/afflicted individuals, antioxidant purposes, other health purposes, etc...
    adding choline aids that muscle absorbtion and aids with leptin function...
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/132/4/636.full
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/1/84.full

  28. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I can't stress this enough: in my opinion, the benefits of the various carnitine forms outweigh any fat burnining/substrate utilization changes through elevating muscle carnitine. There is no "better" carnitine. They all possess unique benefits. LCLT will increase androgen receptor density, but I feel that its true benefits are the effects that are, in turn, responsible for the increased AR density: improved cell protection from exercise, increased recovery, and increased VO2 max.
    Just what i wanted clarifying, going to use LCLT as a staple when gaining
    thnx

  29. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    adding choline aids that muscle absorbtion and aids with leptin function...
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/132/4/636.full
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/1/84.full
    I know. That isn't the only ancillary that can aid with elevating muscle carntiine.
  

  
 

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