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    effective GDA (p-slin, na-rala?)


    i want to eat carbs and minimize fat gain, which GDA is best out of NA-rala, slinsane, or pslin? does na-rala in bulk from nutra need to be stacked with ALCAR to avoid water retention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by massolic
    i want to eat carbs and minimize fat gain, which GDA is best out of NA-rala, slinsane, or pslin? does na-rala in bulk from nutra need to be stacked with ALCAR to avoid water retention?
    This is all a matter of opinion.
    I would start with 1 @ random and see how it goes then change it up.
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    What was the dosing protocol he recommended? I've been interested in na~r~ala for a while. Would plcar have different effects on the na r ala?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    What was the dosing protocol he recommended? I've been interested in na~r~ala for a while. Would plcar have different effects on the na r ala?
    Upon Waking/In The AM w/ a high carb meal: 300mg Na-R-ALA (and 1g agmatine)... +1g ALCAR about 30 minutes later
    In the PM w/ a high carb meal: 300mg Na-R-ALA and 1g ALCAR 30 minutes later

    No idea about the plcar.
    Last edited by DJBeanPole; 03-27-2012 at 07:46 PM. Reason: I can't spell agmatine lol
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    Used slin slane and now using SAN na-r-ala, definitely been effective during prep, but seems like everyone has different preferences
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    1 slin sane + 300-500mg NA-R-ALA (+1g Agmatine)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkis18 View Post
    (+1g Agmatine)
    Mmm mmm good!
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    Any one have any idea how much r lipoic acid it takes to equal narala on mg for mg basis? Mr. Cooper?
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    300mg R ala= 300mg R ala

    250mg NA r ALA = 210mg R ala
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    So na r ala is almost 10x as potent as r ala, if I'm understanding you correctly? Is r lipoic stronger than plain ala?
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    Roughly 140mg of Na-RALA should give you 100mg of R-ALA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
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    ALCAR and taurine are also GDAs.
    As SS said, na-r ala is best at 250mg.

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    Has anybody used Na-rala as part of a lean bulk?
    Would Na-rala help in this regard? (fat accumulation during a bulk)
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    Let me rephrase my question guys. Is 300mg of source naturals r lipoic acid as potent as 300mg of 300mgs of sans na rala? I want to finish my bottle of r lipoic before buying sans na rala. If not how much r lipoic would I have to dose to equal 300mg of na rala? The sodium makes the rala much more effective?
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    I have tried a bunch, slinshot, slinsane, glycobol... so far the most effective for me has been Glycobol.
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    Is this only with high carb meals? What if keto, can you still follow the same?

    Quote Originally Posted by DJBeanPole View Post
    Upon Waking/In The AM w/ a high carb meal: 300mg Na-R-ALA (and 1g agmatine)... +1g ALCAR about 30 minutes later
    In the PM w/ a high carb meal: 300mg Na-R-ALA and 1g ALCAR 30 minutes later

    No idea about the plcar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger
    I have tried a bunch, slinshot, slinsane, glycobol... so far the most effective for me has been Glycobol.
    What were your thoughts on SLINshot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by massolic View Post
    i want to eat carbs and minimize fat gain, which GDA is best out of NA-rala, slinsane, or pslin? does na-rala in bulk from nutra need to be stacked with ALCAR to avoid water retention?
    Does Na-r-ala cause water retention? I've never heard that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Monk View Post
    Is this only with high carb meals? What if keto, can you still follow the same?
    I've been using 300mg of Na-Rala every day of the week, 4-5 days of which are keto-style (30-50 carbs)......the slinsane I take only if I do all the carbs at once on the low carb days, if they are spread out I don't use the slinsane at all. Same with the anabeta, only pre-WO and/or with high carb days, not on ultra low carb days. But I have no negative effects when taking the Na-Rala on the keto-style days.....the PLCAR and ALCAR I don't think it matters what amount of carbs you take in.....
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    While things like Na-R-ALA are certainly worthwhile for other benefits, I don't believe any of the purported GDAs do much of anything. Either negligible effects or zero effects in healthy people. Flame away and I'll sit on my fat wallet.
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