- 03-13-2012, 04:51 PM
so yesterday I started my workouts in the morning instead of the evening and only lifted about an hour and was done by noon...I bought and just started to use it yesterday in high hopes but I have to say...the claim of deep sleep...ya didn't help me sleep at all, I was up all night last night and I was feeling tired at 11 so I took the pill right before bed and within 20 minutes or so I felt wired...I couldnt get any sleep and probably only got an hours worth of some sleep.....anyone else have this strange side effect??
- 03-13-2012, 05:01 PM
When you take medication that has a warning of "may cause drowsiness", does it happen? Do you get drowsy?
Meister"THE DARK SIDE"
- 03-13-2012, 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Meister
03-13-2012, 05:23 PM
03-13-2012, 05:24 PM
03-13-2012, 05:30 PM
my bad...feeling weird should have been replaced with insomnia...I am not new to tests I've been on a few now and I just started a new stack of:Originally Posted by VaughnTrue
maximize v2 + hemavol for a pre workout
running erase pro as the servings recommend
I have been off of supplements besides protein for the past 4 weeks because I cycle on and off with equal time and it's been about 5 months since my last test cycle though I threaded the M1P not to long ago as a thread after I did the cycle....
i agree it will probably just take a few days or so but I've never experienced insomnia from a supplement that claims to aid sleep...idk it may just be me
03-13-2012, 05:31 PM
I think he may have been asking because some people respond opposite to things . For instance half the time I drink strong coffee it'll make me sleepy, Ritalin as a kid made me pass out in class, and when I'm on Vicodin I feel energetic.Originally Posted by the gym rat
03-13-2012, 05:31 PM
just got my cousin some and he ran it for a few days, 4 i believe and he said he's gettin some weird side effects. like it does make him sleep and all but a real deep sleep where he cant wake up or want to wake up and his emotions were all over the place. like sad then angry then aggressive etc throughout the day. he stopped it cuz he hated it. said he's just gonna let me finish what he has left so gonna try it next month and see whats up with this stuff
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03-13-2012, 05:34 PM
my bad man I didn't mean to come across like an ass I just didn't want to look stupid saying one thing when you meant the other...to answer your op, no you do not always feel drowsy, the company just reports that as a warning because in their testing they found some patients to experience drowsiness...Originally Posted by Meister
03-13-2012, 05:40 PM
Keep taking any stims early in the morning(or come off all together), and continue as planned. it will work.
03-13-2012, 05:41 PM
Thank you for the feedback, I hope you have better luck
03-13-2012, 05:42 PM
I am always saying stupid sh!t! No issues!
I meant do you personally get drowsy?
For a small percentage of individuals (me included) a reverse effect occurs. From what I was told by a physician, it is basically the same reaction that some children have when they take an antihistamine. Instead of the histamine making you drowsy (something about blocking H1 receptors and I am not going to pretend to know anything about what that means), it actually stimulates your nervous systems causing you to feel "wired".
Have you tried taking Melatonin?
"THE DARK SIDE"
03-13-2012, 05:43 PM
03-13-2012, 05:47 PM
honestly man I have no idea what that is...I'm still pretty much a noob when it comes to supplements besides the ones I have taken (obviously) lol but no, I have no idea what that is and I have never considered taking it....what is it?Originally Posted by Meister
03-13-2012, 05:49 PM
I agree 100%, tends to happen to me all the time...when I get something new and it says it will do something I do sit around expecting it to happen overnight like an idiot lol but I intend to stay on it the full 4 weeks but I will keep posting dailyOriginally Posted by VaughnTrue
03-13-2012, 05:54 PM
03-13-2012, 06:03 PM
03-13-2012, 06:05 PM
Also a big surge in growth hormone will cause one not to be able to sleep and will actualy make you feel wired and or wide awake. Considering that DAA can do this, i would assume that NMDAA would do this to an even bigger degree. Like Vaughn said, give it a couple days, your body will adjust or you can take it with food, this should eliminate the issue a bit.
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03-13-2012, 06:06 PM
Melatonin is naturally produced by the body and it is what tells you that you are sleepy. I'll google and paste:
Melatonin is a naturally occurring hormone that may be effective in treating some sleep problems including jet lag, insomnia, and circadian-rhythm sleep disorders.
What is Melatonin?
Melatonin is a hormone that is secreted by the pineal gland, which is in an area of the brain called the hypothalamus. Melatonin is produced from the amino acid called tryptophan and can be found in the blood as well as in the cerebrospinal fluid that bathes the brain and spinal cord. As a hormone, it conveys signals to other organs and seems to help regulate the circadian rhythms of the body.
Melatonin’s Role in the Circadian Rhythm
The circadian rhythm is the body’s natural pattern of physiological and behavioral processes that are timed to a near 24-hour period. These processes include things like the sleep-wake cycle as well as variations in body temperature, blood pressure, and the release of hormones. Melatonin levels increase after the onset of darkness and peak in the middle of the night between 11pm and 3am. Melatonin seems to promote sleep and can influence the timing of the sleep period.
Melatonin to Treat Sleep Problems
Melatonin may be effective in treating circadian rhythm disorders in which the desire for sleep is disrupted in its timing, resulting in difficulty falling asleep or inappropriate sleepiness. There are many common conditions that may be helped, such as:
What Are Common Side Effects of Melatonin?
- Jet lag
- Shift work sleep disorder
- Insomnia in older adults
- Advanced sleep phase syndrome
- Delayed sleep phase syndrome
- Blindness, which blocks the perception of the natural light-dark cycle
There are many potential side effects of any drug, including hormonal supplements like melatonin. Although you would be unlikely to experience most side effects -- and you may not have any of them -- some that may commonly occur include:
Melatonin is not regulated as a drug and is available over-the-counter, but you should consult with your doctor to ensure that it is appropriate and safe to use to treat your sleeping difficulties.
- Stomach cramps
- Decreased alertness
- Amnesia (memory loss)
- Chest pain
- Circadian rhythm disruption
- Daytime fatigue
- Transient depression
- Hormone changes
- High blood sugars
- Low blood pressure
- Increase eye pressure
- Mood changes
- Pruritus (itchy skin)
- Tachycardia (rapid heart rate)
- Taste disturbance
"THE DARK SIDE"
03-13-2012, 06:13 PM
well that sums it up pretty good lol...thanks for the info I appreciate it but I think I will give this thing a full try before resorting to something else...Originally Posted by Meister
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
off topic but has anyone looked into the article on here about anabolic flexing?? I posted a new thread in the exercise section if anyone wants to talk about it on there and give their input!!
03-13-2012, 08:01 PM
03-14-2012, 04:53 PM
alright so today is day two after taking intimidate and there was hardly any improvement...I was tired at 11 and started drifting off so I took a pill and within 15 minutes...insomnia hits me again...I fell asleep eventually at 1 and woke up at 3...when I woke up though I did feel like I could go start lifting right away but I had to keep trying to get more sleep...I probably only got 5 hours of sleep last night but I didn't feel tired throughout the day so idk yet...seems like its slowly improving like most supplements do...
03-14-2012, 05:23 PM
not even steroids work within 48 horus. It's a dietary supplement, and every tester noted that it "kicked in" at the end of week 2. Give it time to work.
If you aren't sleeping SOUNDLY by day 8-9, try taking it pre-wo. In the meantime, I believe you should get deeper and deeper sleep from here on out.
03-14-2012, 10:11 PM
03-14-2012, 10:45 PM
you sound a bit like me, the first week i woke up groggy and **** from my intimidate but after my first week i sleep really well. I do take melatonin nightly because i lift after work before bed and need to fall asleep fast.
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03-14-2012, 10:53 PM
Been taking Intimidate for 4 days now & I am loving it so far...Great Sleep and great mood....can't wait for what else it has in store for me.
03-15-2012, 04:58 AM
03-15-2012, 11:44 AM
finally!! day 3 and I have regained my sleep!! went to bed at 10 and woke up at 845 with my 8am alarm blaring!! and some crazy dreams!! so I can attest to the claim of deep sleep because it truly does help it just takes a day or two to kick in! though it is still very early in testing, I can start to see improvements In volume, hardening, and vascularity
03-15-2012, 01:26 PM
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