AX Advanced PCT vs. DAA or NMDA

[SXIPro]

I am an old guy, 48, looking to boost my Testosterone. I have never done a cycle.....of anything. So is Advanced PCT not at option at this point? Should I just go with DAA or Intimidate?

Thanks

[Bnatural]

AX Advanced PCT would be a good intro product to see how well you respond to the product.
DAA can raise natural testosterone but people tend to forget it's not a huge rise in test.
it is an increase though and a proven increase when the proper dose is used.

i'd go with the AX advanced pct and follow the dosing protocol suggested (3 caps per day, I'd go with 2 in the am, 1 in the pm to optimize the pills and your natural hormone timing)

[warsteiner]

There's nothing wrong with using any of those products but at your age I would go with DS Triazole.

DAA/Intimidate are great products that have human trials to back up their test boosting abilities (or at least DAA does) but both of these will also raise estrogen so you would also need to use a 2nd product like Erase to reduce the estrogen. AX Advanced PCT has some good reviews from people using it as part of a PCT but AFAIK there isn't any blood work to show how much test is raised.

DS Triazole has a LOT of blood work showing that it raises test AND reduces estrogen. As you are in your 40's (as I am) a product that raises test and reduces estrogen not only gives your libido a big boost but it also carries over to the gym.

[Eizbear]

Hard-FX is the choice, if you are afraid of increased e.levels with DAA, as the 7-MF helps controlling the potential increased estro from DAA... No need to buy two product when you get all in one with this one.

[warsteiner]

Does Hard-Fx contain Sodium DAA or just bulk DAA?

[mr.cooper69]

DAA is the best of the 3 imo.

[criticalbench]

Daa is a solid choice along with nmda that is in intimidate which has gotten consistently positive feedback.

[th3futur3]

I am an old guy, 48, looking to boost my Testosterone. I have never done a cycle.....of anything. So is Advanced PCT not at option at this point? Should I just go with DAA or Intimidate?

Thanks

In all honesty...I would just invest in 8 weeks of Intimidate. The results/feedback have been bar none and people are loving it and can not stop commenting on how it surpasses DAA. If money is tight then DAA would be a great choice!

[kisaj]

In all honesty...I would just invest in 8 weeks of Intimidate. The results/feedback have been bar none and people are loving it and can not stop commenting on how it surpasses DAA. If money is tight then DAA would be a great choice!

So in my case- money is never an issue and I see great results from DAA. I keep reading reviews of Intimidate, and I keep asking myself if it can really be that much better than DAA. I'm inclined to try it myself, but I just haven't read a lot about NMDA compared to DAA to feel comfortable. So the question is (paging Mr Cooper) whether the benefits and gains are that much better, if you already respond well to DAA?

[Bnatural]

So in my case- money is never an issue and I see great results from DAA. I keep reading reviews of Intimidate, and I keep asking myself if it can really be that much better than DAA. I'm inclined to try it myself, but I just haven't read a lot about NMDA compared to DAA to feel comfortable. So the question is (paging Mr Cooper) whether the benefits and gains are that much better, if you already respond well to DAA?

not mr cooper but nmda has been around for a bit and has been in a muscle warfare product for some time with limited positive reviews.

[mr.cooper69]

So in my case- money is never an issue and I see great results from DAA. I keep reading reviews of Intimidate, and I keep asking myself if it can really be that much better than DAA. I'm inclined to try it myself, but I just haven't read a lot about NMDA compared to DAA to feel comfortable. So the question is (paging Mr Cooper) whether the benefits and gains are that much better, if you already respond well to DAA?

NMDA

Pros
-If DAA -> NMDA conversion mediates some of the increase in T production, than having a potent NMDA source may be more efficient.
-Smaller doses
-Less potential for GI issues
Cons
-Doesn't act at the testes directly
-Has lower BBB permeability
-Lack of human studies
-Less known safety profile

DAA

Pros
-Human study
-Cheap
-Higher BBB permeability
-Boosts T activity at testes

Cons
-Higher potential for aromatization
-Larger doses necessary. Insoluble in bulk form and tastes poor



Those are my thoughts. In the end, I think you will experience very similar results with both. It ultimately comes down to the scientific community's lack of knowledge on the DAA -> NMDA conversion rate in the brain.

[VaughnTrue]

not mr cooper but nmda has been around for a bit and has been in a muscle warfare product for some time with limited positive reviews.

This is actually semi-false to be honest.


They introduced the compound in name, and that's it. Look at the prop blend they put it into!

35mg
D-Aspartic Acid, N-methyl-d-aspartic acid

So, knowing what we know about prop blends, the HIGHEST possible dose of NMDA in this product is 17.5mg. That being said, the product has next to no positive reviews, so its PRETTY obvious the dosing of the NMDA in this product is no higher than any other DAA product. NMDA can be a natural byproduct of all DAA raws, so technically any company selling DAA could claim there is NMDA at an undisclosed dose in there.


If anyone has a sealed bottle of Muscle Warfare product, i'd love to get it tested.

[kisaj]

Thanks guys. I think considering I see great results from DAA and I like to be a little conservative, I'll probably stick with that for the time being.

[mr.cooper69]

^Considering price points, I wouldn't be surprised if that blend was 99.9% DAA. I mean, 35mg?

[VaughnTrue]

^Considering price points, I wouldn't be surprised if that blend was 99.9% DAA. I mean, 35mg?

ding ding ding...someone understands! $10/kg...or $7000/kg....hmmmm

[th3futur3]

Thanks guys. I think considering I see great results from DAA and I like to be a little conservative, I'll probably stick with that for the time being.

Respectable outlook. Keep posted to reviews and feedback and if later down the road you are convinced by NMDA and ready to take action...contact any of us reps would love to help you out!

[criticalbench]

NMDA

Pros
-If DAA -> NMDA conversion mediates some of the increase in T production, than having a potent NMDA source may be more efficient.
-Smaller doses
-Less potential for GI issues
Cons
-Doesn't act at the testes directly
-Has lower BBB permeability
-Lack of human studies
-Less known safety profile

DAA

Pros
-Human study
-Cheap
-Higher BBB permeability
-Boosts T activity at testes

Cons
-Higher potential for aromatization
-Larger doses necessary. Insoluble in bulk form and tastes poor



Those are my thoughts. In the end, I think you will experience very similar results with both. It ultimately comes down to the scientific community's lack of knowledge on the DAA -> NMDA conversion rate in the brain.

Good list bro, i'm just going to take both to hit my balls and brain at the same time!

In all seriousness, DAA boosts my libido great, and if thats all I wanted, I would prolly just buy bulk daa and run it. Intimidate has actually helped me everywhere else though. It boosts my libido roughly the same that i can recall, but gives me tremendous sleep and my workouts/strength have been far superior. I am in my 2nd wee of 8, running the raw powder for 4 weeks, then a bottle of intimidate. The raw tastes damn good lol. I actually enjoy drinking my raw nmda!

Mike

[Bnatural]

^Considering price points, I wouldn't be surprised if that blend was 99.9% DAA. I mean, 35mg?

very solid point.
I just remember their being nmda in the mw product, I didn't look into the profile, all of the products seemed more ad based promo than a real focus on r&d.