This could explain why many users feel nothing when taking fenugreek products or products containing them.
Do you think Tribulus is any better? I am looking for that extra edge. I see that on BB.com animal stak is rated pretty high with a lot of reviews. I also am worried about gyno. i lost 90 lbs over the past year and i dont want to develope gyno and ruin all my hard work. anyone hear of any side effects ???
Ok cool ill have to look that up. I have been doing p90x for a year now and got great results but i still have some residual belly fat and some fat around my pecs, my doctor when i was younger said it was gyno but its almost all gone now and i dont feel any tissue. I am just scared to take something then acctually develope into gyno
No, tribulus is only good for boosting libido. If you're worried about gyno with DAA, run it with Erase/L-Dopa.
You shouldn't get gyno from any natty test boosters, idk where they are getting this lol
I am just asking because i have never tried one. And thats the only thing im worried about.
Well no worries to be had brosef, if you were taking a ds like SuperDrol or M14add then maybe we would have a problem but I have NEVER heard of gyno from a natty testy. Hopefully an expert on this can chime and support or reject this
It could have been me or ???, but I started getting an erect sore left nip while on Lit Up and IGF-2. I can take IGF- without issues so I surmised it was the DAA in Lit Up. Stopped the Lit Up and things are good. Kind of sucked because I kind of liked Lit Up.
I was probably in the 10 to 12 range. Calipers and a scale at anti aging doctor said around 10 or just below, but I don't think I look around 10 percent. I am very lean from professional and big wave surfing for 35 years. I almost bought another tub of Lit Up to try again, but opted for Assault a few days ago. You think I would be safe to give another try. 44 years old, 5'11" and 168 to 172. Would love to add a little lean mass and I already consume maybe 4000 calories a day to crazy metabolism and active lifestyle.
DAA should be a staple imo. If you are getting a little sensitivity in the nipples I'd get something like Erase/Erase Pro. Should be enough to stunt any sides like that from DAA.
Awesome thanks for the info guys. So trib/fenu are our DAA is in.
This is not a valid point. I can name 50 companies with CEE and glutamine products. Different extracts of fenugreek MAY bypass the estrogen issue, but realistically, Testosurge is the only extract I feel has a chance of doing so (but the research hasn't been published yet unfortunately).
From what I have seen there have been a fair number of people reporting this. I had my nips get a little itchy day 3-4 of using DAA. It tells me A: its doing something alright and B: it does have an effect that could be related to that area.
Actually there is a risk with DAA
Gyno risk?
Elevated PRL
If a SERM is part of your PCT I wouldn't worry about elevated estrogen from fenugreek or DAA
the testofen is intended to raise free T, not total T... but this boring anyway. Testofen is probably working mostly through insulin/glucose metabolism.
Your right. this fits right into the rest of this thread. We should stop drinking water.
I dont know about the cost benefit ratio but I know people using a quality fenugreek supplement are usually getting stronger, leaner, and feeling more sexually potent. Im just wondering exactly what this supposed increase in estrogen is doing that is so horrible.
True, I'm running Tam
Winning.
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