any REAL vasodilator supps?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    I've been using arginine for 15 years as a precursor for gh release ..... I am new to body building and have a dumb question,,,,, I've read that getting "pump" serves no real purpose other than boosting the ego.....is there any truth to this,,, and if not, what physiological benefit does the "pump" serve?
    I used to think the same thing about pumps... Now I wish I started focusing on "pumps" a lot sooner. My joints probably wouldn't hurt so much either.



  2. Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop

    I used to think the same thing about pumps... Now I wish I started focusing on "pumps" a lot sooner. My joints probably wouldn't hurt so much either.
    Explain?

    Blood/Nutrients into muscle correct?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Explain?

    Blood/Nutrients into muscle correct?
    No. Nutrients are delivered just fine to muscles, regardless of the state of your blood vessels. The increase in bloodflow does boost vasoregulatory function, however, which results in true NO boosters serving as ergogenic aids.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    No. Nutrients are delivered just fine to muscles, regardless of the state of your blood vessels. The increase in bloodflow does boost vasoregulatory function, however, which results in true NO boosters serving as ergogenic aids.
    Thx
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by th3futur3 View Post
    If there's any IF'ers out there...hemavol is a god send working out fasted. I almost am thinking about cutting out stims altogether and just taking 10 grams bcaas/1-2 scoops hemavol pre workout for now on. It's great!
    Aren't most stimulants vasoconstrictors anyway? I don't understand the connection you are trying to make with this?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Aren't most stimulants vasoconstrictors anyway? I don't understand the connection you are trying to make with this?
    Hemavol doesn't contain stimulants. And no, during exercise caffeine actually acts as a vasodilator [in skeletal muscle], along with a couple other noteworthy CNS stims.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Hemavol doesn't contain stimulants. And no, during exercise caffeine actually acts as a vasodilator [in skeletal muscle], along with a couple other noteworthy CNS stims.
    What other noteworthy stims Coopz?
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79

    What other noteworthy stims Coopz?
    What about hemavol and focus factor together? Sound crazy?

  9. DO people not understand how important insulin is for "pumps"???

    -Matt

  10. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    DO people not understand how important insulin is for "pumps"???

    -Matt
    Drop that knowledge bomb on AM Matt.
    :blindfold:

  11. Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
    Drop that knowledge bomb on AM Matt.

    He is quite correct. Heightened insulin levels = pump like whoa
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

    He is quite correct. Heightened insulin levels = pump like whoa
    Eat red velvet cake before and after your work out?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Eat red velvet cake before and after your work out?
    = winning upon winning.
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  14. If you are NOT suffering from insulin resistance and are NOT obese INSULIN will increase blood flow to skeletal muscle. The combination of insulin being spiked + exercising will increase blood flow, oxygen, and many other vital nutrients into muscle cells.

    Leaner people are TYPICALLY more insulin sensitive and will respond well to an insulin spike pre-workout. Fatter people TYPICALLY are more insulin resistant and will NOT respond favorably to an insulin spike.

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    Matt

  15. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    DO people not understand how important insulin is for "pumps"???

    -Matt
    I get the best pumps lifting about an hour to an hour and a half atfer a high complex carb meal and drinking a lotta water. works for me. maybe it has something to do with the insulin.

  16. Don't forget nitrates. They're what make Fierce, fierce.

  17. Sodium nitrite is a powerful carcinogenic,, are the nitrates we're talking about dangerous as well???

  18. Icariin + agmatine + sns Arginine E2 Matrix = honestly the sickest pump and most vascular I have ever been
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79
    I think a good NO bolster is rpm and drive. Mix in some v02 ultra, and some purple wraath. Done
    X2 for drive and rpm... great combo

  20. Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    Sodium nitrate is a powerful carcinogenic,, are the nitrates we're talking about dangerous as well???
    really not carcinogenic when it isn't combined with processed/preserved meats...

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/20...odium-nitrite/
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

    really not carcinogenic when it isn't combined with processed/preserved meats...

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/20...odium-nitrite/
    The article said it combines with amines to become carcinogenic.... wondering about glutamine ..... it also said to take with c&e, which is something to keep in mind .... sure hate to end up with cancer due to want of a pump,,, lol

  22. ^ wrong chemical. The concept is still the same, the reduction potential (and therefore activity) is greater.


    The associated cation has an effect on the reactivity of the compound. In the case of supplements, it's attached to an amino acid, making it a weaker electrolyte. Sodium being a strong electrolyte leads to more free nitrates. THe nitrates break down and form free radicals and oxidize the crap out of everything. Most nitrates with a metal cation will discolor your skin as a result of the anion reacting with the cation, forming the metal oxide.
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  23. Simple antioxidants should solve it pretty quickly
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  24. Been looking at several articles on the subject,,, definitely not black and white with regards to whether nitrates are safe or not,,,, just goes to show, we definitely need to do our own research when deciding what to put in our bodies ..... I, for one, try to not take any chemical or supplement that doesn't have at least 10 years of research behind it.... most of what I take, I've been taking for over 20 years

  25. People ranted and raved over Nanostim, the company that makes it I'm not a huge fan of, but said hey I'll try it. Forked over my $30 and pumps are ok, it's like once u use something for a bit maybe the body becomes tolerant cuz I've used pump products before.

    Vasotropin looks good but I don't always get a heavy carb mean in before my work out and white blood looks solid, something I def want to try... One good thing about nanostim is it does give u a great focus...
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