any REAL vasodilator supps?
- 01-26-2012, 10:51 PM
- 01-27-2012, 12:00 AM
- 01-27-2012, 12:25 AM
Ok.... silly question.... what if I mix arginine powder into a hot oil to sterilize it, could I safely inject it??? May sound dumb,,, but why not ask the question
01-27-2012, 12:26 AM
01-27-2012, 12:28 AM
i guess just going the hemavol route would be my best bet to cover all bases.... however, it says not to use more than 4 times a week, am i wrong in assuming i may miss my 2nd target goal of lower bp (through vasodilation) as i would probably need something that i can take everyday?
i just figure if it does help with vasodilation and improve circulation, it wouldnt be in my system long enough to keep these effects if im having to take it every other day. am i wrong in this? (i realize there may not be a definite answer to this as most people probably dont experiment with it for its blood pressure lowering abilities, haha)
01-27-2012, 12:31 AM
01-27-2012, 12:44 AM
01-27-2012, 12:47 AM
Hahaha flex I loled on that one..... But totally agree. And wish I would just get the answer lolOriginally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
01-27-2012, 12:50 AM
No.......... it is possible through chemistry..... But you dont have the supllies or the knowledge.... Sry.... No offense.... Just take insulinOriginally Posted by grngoloco
01-27-2012, 01:06 AM
Is this enzyme just ridiculously fast and efficient at the conversion of arginine to ornothine and urea relative to eNOS?
I feel like you've proposed a mechanism that contains multiple reactions, but jumped over the details regarding relative rates (e.g. selectivities).
I don't mean to beat a dead horse on the subject, this post simply does not present enough information to support you're claim. I am mainly interested in simply in scientific information being presented in a scientific manner.
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01-27-2012, 01:43 AM
Seriously,,, I take argininernithine in a 2:1 ratio for my blood pressure and IT WORKS!! try it yourself,,, if it doesn't work it won't cost you near as much as most other supplements people are talking aboutOriginally Posted by bill86
01-27-2012, 03:37 AM
01-27-2012, 10:27 AM
I was taking double dose arginine along with whatever was in my preworkouts, doing this for about a week, then one day I had the squirts seriously all day. At least 5 times a day. After doing some research I decided to stop arginine, and about a week later I was "normal" again. Arginine was the only thing removed.Originally Posted by grngoloco
Your body can be poisoned with too much basically. It can reach "toxic levels" and symptoms such as mine are a possibility.
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01-27-2012, 11:28 AM
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01-27-2012, 11:55 AM
01-27-2012, 12:33 PM
01-27-2012, 12:54 PM
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01-27-2012, 12:58 PM
What I am saying is that the production of nitric oxide does not occur in our stomachs, and by the time arginine is digested/absorbed, it is no longer arginine...therefor it will not increase NO.
Again, compare this to Beta Alanaine & Carnosine...which would YOU take to boost Carnosine levels?
Yes, I forgot about Nitrates.
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01-27-2012, 01:00 PM
Why would I read an entire paper if the abstract doesn't begin to touch on the specific topic on hand?
I can post a tone of abstracts and full studies all day long, yet it doesn't mean they'll have anything to do with the conversation.
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01-27-2012, 01:03 PM
I guess I'll throw away my Hema Vol and just take bulk AAKG.
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01-27-2012, 01:23 PM
You can get the squirts from vitamin c... that doesn't equate with being "poisoned" it just means you weren't used to it,,, you have to raise your dosage gradually ..... also it should be taken alone,, it competes for receptors and any that passes through without being absorbed adds to the squirtsOriginally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
01-27-2012, 01:34 PM
01-27-2012, 01:43 PM
01-27-2012, 01:44 PM
01-27-2012, 01:47 PM
Lol..... it's @ two teaspoons mixed with a glass of water and some pedialyte powder..... considering the average serious body builder takes 20+ pills a day.... that's nothing!!Originally Posted by rms80
01-27-2012, 03:46 PM
Was doing AAKG for many years at fairly high dosage (10 grams) but pumps wouldn't last long.... maybe a couple of hours at most then the pumps went away.
For me the best NO boosters are Agmatine, GPLC, and Creatine Nitrate. You can get the bulk agmatine from Muscle Feast. Was using Primordial's GPLC for a long time (which was great) but now they've discontinued it You can PrimaForce which is good but not as good of a value.
For a great combo product you can do APS's Nitrozine which has GPLC and Agmatine... sick pumps all day.
01-27-2012, 04:19 PM
01-27-2012, 06:22 PM
01-27-2012, 06:30 PM
01-27-2012, 06:54 PM
I've personally compared Agmatine, Citulline Malate, and GLPC together with a Nitrate (Yoked) and, although both worked extremely well, the nitrate worked slightly better for me. But Agmatine and Yoked together-- Ha!
The cool thing about these supps is they not only make you look more pumped, but they dramatically increase energy and cardio abilities. I'm old and I can get 15.5 - 16 mets out of my cycling ablities when I go all out for 30 minutes. Ten mets is good shape for a 45 year old, and higher is better. And these supps do make a big difference.
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