Titanium + Div 1 both as bottle directs, transderm 5-8 pumps a day, erase 1-2 caps a day. (5 pumps Transderm 1 cap erase, 8 pumps 2 caps erase)
going from 5 pumps of transderm to 8 makes a diff IMO. Ive been using 8 for the past 2.5wks and am very happy so far. I was on 4-5 a day for 3wks before that also.