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I feel this needs to be posted - Me, My Brain, and ALCAR

  1.  11-14-2011  08:45 PM
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    I feel this needs to be posted - Me, My Brain, and ALCAR


    I have been a long-time user of ALCAR and have always loved it. I used it consistently before studying or training for the major focus effects, but I was also aware of its other benefits like neuroprotection. Well recently (as in, 2 months ago), I changed my ALCAR dosing. Rather than taking it sporadically whenever I needed a boost, I use 1-2g every day, split into 1g doses. Over the past 2 months, I have noticed a vast change in my life and I really want to help others realize just how significant this ingredient is.

    From my consistent usage, I have noticed a DRAMATIC increase in sharpness and memory. As far as school goes, I need far less time to get my assignments done. I am notorious for making silly mistakes in math exams/homework etc...I always get the concepts but the silly mistakes kill me. Well, in the past 2 months, I have lost a total of 1 point in my math class. I'm not saying this to brag, but my point is that this has never occurred in the past: my study habits quite literally haven't changed one bit. In fact, a 2nd consecutive 100% on a very long math exam (not multiple choice; just tons of calculations) prompted me to write this because I feel that others stand to benefit from this as well. To put it simply, I feel sharp and focused all the time, and can recall things from memory with more ease than ever.

    But there are other things I've noticed too -- major things. I still drink occasionally, and when I drink, it's usually quite a bit. During the following days, or even the entire following week, I feel foggier. ALCAR seems to reverse these effects if taken at 2g prior to drinking as I have. This makes sense scientifically as well, as ALCAR is demonstrated to help prevent alcohol-induced neurodegeneration.

    I have also been bulking the past few months. I'm not sure if it's the ALCAR or other factors, but I have kept fat at a reasonable level despite eating a "dirty" diet. ALCAR may indeed aid with staying lean.

    Finally, something I've been enjoying: vivid, and even LUCID, dreams. The mental stimulation caused by ALCAR likely causes this, and it is awesome.

    I can't stress enough that these benefits did not manifest themselves until I used ALCAR continuously at 1-2g/day, rather than sporadically.

    This may not sound like "all that" to a bodybuilder, but please realize just how important the mind is to bodybuilding. I feel sharper, I feel happier, I feel on-top-of-things. I sleep better. ALCAR has made my life better, and if that doesn't affect bodybuilding, I don't know what does.

    Anyway, that's my story. Just wanted to get the word out because this ingredient does not get nearly the amount of love that it should. A true staple for me.



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    excellent post, I will definitely pick some up

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    If I was using ALCAR daily i would take an anti-oxidant. It has shown to have pro-oxidant effects at very high doses. Whether this translates to 1-2g per day I am not sure, but always better safe than sorry.

    Also don't just depend on ALCAR. The only part of ALCAR doing anything for memory or cognition is the acetyl group. It cleaves as soon as it hits the stomach, and having more acetyl groups available may allow for more production of acetylcholine.

    But knowing this, it is essential to supplement a choline with it to get more of the spectrum. Then you can get tricky and add an AChE inhibitor here and there
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    Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    If I was using ALCAR daily i would take an anti-oxidant. It has shown to have pro-oxidant effects at very high doses. Whether this translates to 1-2g per day I am not sure, but always better safe than sorry.

    Also don't just depend on ALCAR. The only part of ALCAR doing anything for memory or cognition is the acetyl group. It cleaves as soon as it hits the stomach, and having more acetyl groups available may allow for more production of acetylcholine.

    But knowing this, it is essential to supplement a choline with it to get more of the spectrum. Then you can get tricky and add an AChE inhibitor here and there
    Indeed Natty. I do focus xt at a scoop every other day and will dose Hup A during exam time. However, the benefits that I mentioned above truly came to light once I started dosing the ALCAR continuously, ceteris paribus.

    Na-R-Ala = best antioxidant with ALCAR IMO, just don't take them together or they polymerize.

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    I take 1-2g daily also, sometimes i miss a day here or there. I deff love it too. I would use focus xt if it didnt give me headaches and sometimes a huge crash.

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    Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    I take 1-2g daily also, sometimes i miss a day here or there. I deff love it too. I would use focus xt if it didnt give me headaches and sometimes a huge crash.
    That was most likely a result of sensitivity to vinpocetine or caffeine but thats a duh.
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    That was most likely a result of sensitivity to vinpocetine or caffeine but thats a duh.
    Not the caffiene, probably just to much for my poor brain to handle lol

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    Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Not the caffiene, probably just to much for my poor brain to handle lol
    A huge crash from Focus XT is odd as the nootropics actually seem to help me ease off the stimulants. On the flip side, that's a lot of mental stimulation .

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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    A huge crash from Focus XT is odd as the nootropics actually seem to help me ease off the stimulants. On the flip side, that's a lot of mental stimulation .
    I thinks its more of a crash from my brain working so hard not the caffiene lol, it doesnt feel like a caffiene crash at all.

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    Is alcar best taken on an empty stomach or can it mixed in with a protein shake? It's very acidic.

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    Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    I thinks its more of a crash from my brain working so hard not the caffiene lol, it doesnt feel like a caffiene crash at all.
    If it wasn't the caffeine then most likely it was the vinpocetine

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    What!!!! I've been taking alcar and Na-R Ala together. Polymerization does what exactly?

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    Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Is alcar best taken on an empty stomach or can it mixed in with a protein shake? It's very acidic.
    I notice the acute focus effects slightly faster on an empty stomach, but as far as the consistent usage, timing doesn't matter. It is, after all, a cumulative effect.

    Originally Posted by tunnelrat View Post
    What!!!! I've been taking alcar and Na-R Ala together. Polymerization does what exactly?
    Define taking them together. I was literally putting Na-R-Ala in my focus XT shakes at one point, and the entire shake turned white and flaky. I'm not exactly sure what they polymerize into, but keep in mind that ALCAR is Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCL.

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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I notice the acute focus effects slightly faster on an empty stomach, but as far as the consistent usage, timing doesn't matter. It is, after all, a cumulative effect.



    Define taking them together. I was literally putting Na-R-Ala in my focus XT shakes at one point, and the entire shake turned white and flaky. I'm not exactly sure what they polymerize into, but keep in mind that ALCAR is Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCL.
    Every morning on an empty stomach, I wash down 2 grams of alcar with water, followed by 2 Alpha T-2 and 2 Na-R Ala caps. I was just concerned that dosing them together would affect their efficacy or something.

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    Originally Posted by tunnelrat View Post
    Every morning on an empty stomach, I wash down 2 grams of alcar with water, followed by 2 Alpha T-2 and 2 Na-R Ala caps. I was just concerned that dosing them together would affect their efficacy or something.
    Try taking the Na-R-Ala half an hour before your ALCAR. Na-R-Ala has a very long half-life (17-22 hours) so don't worry if you don't take it at exactly the same time as ALCAR. This probably isn't an issue, but just play it safe .

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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Try taking the Na-R-Ala half an hour before your ALCAR. Na-R-Ala has a very long half-life (17-22 hours) so don't worry if you don't take it at exactly the same time as ALCAR. This probably isn't an issue, but just play it safe .
    Thank you sir!!!

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    Love this post. Cy > all.

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