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    I would advise creating a new thread if you want to discuss that, since that doesn't really tie into any of the conversation in here.

    I'd also advise doing a lot more research before jumping into hormonal products based on what I've seen so far, but then again, maybe I'm just a jerk.

    Oh, and my definition of research is actually searching for things first before creating new threads when completely identical threads already exist.



    edit: This is in reference to discussing pro-hormones; AM glitched for a minute and didn't get my quote.
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    agreed
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    I never tried DS Activate/Triazole combo but I do know that BPS EndoSurge in combination with PES Erase is the best I have tried so far. HCGen is good (overpriced), BioForge V3 doesn't impress me and I got very little from those with Prolensis in them (Phytoserms, Tropinol). The one I did really like is not made anymore but I ended up liking EndoSurge more in the end, it is just all around one of the highest dosed and most noticeable test boosters I have ran. Can't wait to crack open my bottle next week when I am in week 2 of my PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I never tried DS Activate/Triazole combo but I do know that BPS EndoSurge in combination with PES Erase is the best I have tried so far. HCGen is good (overpriced), BioForge V3 doesn't impress me and I got very little from those with Prolensis in them (Phytoserms, Tropinol). The one I did really like is not made anymore but I ended up liking EndoSurge more in the end, it is just all around one of the highest dosed and most noticeable test boosters I have ran. Can't wait to crack open my bottle next week when I am in week 2 of my PCT.
    The Endosurge has great feedback, I'll have to give that a try sometime. Hey oufinny are you still liking the Formula-X? I would think the Endosurge/Formula-X/Erase combo would be a pretty nice stack.
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    there are alot of stacks that i havent tried but need to so i can give feedback on them.
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    Instead of coming in here and showing pictures of company produced bloodwork, fancy images, or posting product write ups I will tell you the best stack you can use, best bang for your buck, and best results you will see. Its pretty simple really.

    1)

    This is DAA. DAA works. Take 3000-32000mg per day.

    DAA can be made better though. DAA works by increasing your body's level of testosterone. When your testosterone increases your estrogen also increases.

    Why?

    Testosterone converts to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. There is no way around it...UNLESS...you take an aromatase inhibitor. Enter product 2.



    Erase is a real, synthetic, aromatase inhibitor. When the aromatase enzyme is inhibited your testosterone levels will rise due to less estrogen being converted.

    You are now coupling this with DAA, which is increasing testosterone through its own mechanism.

    The result?

    Two products working together to increase your testosterone, via two different mechanisms. Pure ingredients. Results you can feel. You dont need to get bloodwork to see if its working. You will know its working.

    3 capsules of Erase per day. 3 capsules of DAA per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster
    Instead of coming in here and showing pictures of company produced bloodwork, fancy images, or posting product write ups I will tell you the best stack you can use, best bang for your buck, and best results you will see. Its pretty simple really.

    1)

    This is DAA. DAA works. Take 3000-32000mg per day.

    DAA can be made better though. DAA works by increasing your body's level of testosterone. When your testosterone increases your estrogen also increases.

    Why?

    Testosterone converts to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. There is no way around it...UNLESS...you take an aromatase inhibitor. Enter product 2.

    Erase is a real, synthetic, aromatase inhibitor. When the aromatase enzyme is inhibited your testosterone levels will rise due to less estrogen being converted.

    You are now coupling this with DAA, which is increasing testosterone through its own mechanism.

    The result?

    Two products working together to increase your testosterone, via two different mechanisms. Pure ingredients. Results you can feel. You dont need to get bloodwork to see if its working. You will know its working.

    3 capsules of Erase per day. 3 capsules of DAA per day.

    Enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Tom(tk)
    Driven Sports Activate Xtreme and Triazole are great products. There is lots of blood work done to show how effective they are as well.

    Here is our graph regarding Triazole.

    Here is my personal blood work showing the effects of Triazole and Activate Xtreme combined for 4 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    The Endosurge has great feedback, I'll have to give that a try sometime. Hey oufinny are you still liking the Formula-X? I would think the Endosurge/Formula-X/Erase combo would be a pretty nice stack.
    I stopped it as I ran it on cycle for a month, I do believe it helped. I may pick it up again after I am out of EndoSurge and/or Fadogia to help keep recovery moving. That formula you speak of is what I took for a while, it was off the chain though I used Adamantium as it was all I had. That is about as aggressive and effective a test boosting stack as I can think of, nothing is left to chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Instead of coming in here and showing pictures of company produced bloodwork, fancy images, or posting product write ups I will tell you the best stack you can use, best bang for your buck, and best results you will see. Its pretty simple really.

    1)

    This is DAA. DAA works. Take 3000-32000mg per day.

    DAA can be made better though. DAA works by increasing your body's level of testosterone. When your testosterone increases your estrogen also increases.

    Why?

    Testosterone converts to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. There is no way around it...UNLESS...you take an aromatase inhibitor. Enter product 2.



    Erase is a real, synthetic, aromatase inhibitor. When the aromatase enzyme is inhibited your testosterone levels will rise due to less estrogen being converted.

    You are now coupling this with DAA, which is increasing testosterone through its own mechanism.

    The result?

    Two products working together to increase your testosterone, via two different mechanisms. Pure ingredients. Results you can feel. You dont need to get bloodwork to see if its working. You will know its working.

    3 capsules of Erase per day. 3 capsules of DAA per day.

    Enjoy
    Bang for your buck, this is #1. Personally I like the other benefit of Endo such as increased GH levels, better recovery and prostate protection over DAA but either way, I always use Erase. Actually, am using it right now as part of my PCT, it is the only one I am confident will work every time, no matter the situation.
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    Adding in EndoSurge adds a whole new dimension to the stack

    1) GH increase

    2) Free Testosterone increase

    3) A third mechanism to increasing overall testosterone

    Erase + DAA + EndoSurge is scientifically the sexiest test boosting stack I can think of
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Adding in EndoSurge hads a whole new dimension to the stack

    1) GH increase

    2) Free Testosterone increase

    3) A third mechanism to increasing overall testosterone

    Erase + DAA + EndoSurge is scientifically the sexiest test boosting stack I can think of
    Being that I ran this, I can say definitively I never felt more positive effects from a stack than I did on this combination; it is the reason I became a BPS rep. It was a no brainer for me and BPS working with PES to offer stacks that include Erase among others (Anabeta), just shows how well these products work together.
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    Hmm just seeing endosurge's profile now. Divanil and L-dopa, two compounds that I like . But can it topple Activate Xtreme?
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    Analyze the proprietary blend and decide for yourself. The doses in EndoSurge are maximal which is exciting.

    And we all know the ingredients work. Both are great/proven products
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsabo08 View Post
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    Im confused why DAA gets some pretty low ratings on Nutra? Im using DAA/Erase combo right now and I couldnt be happier with the results so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSD77 View Post
    Im confused why DAA gets some pretty low ratings on Nutra? Im using DAA/Erase combo right now and I couldnt be happier with the results so far.
    Because other companies dont want SNS DAA product to sell more than their DAA product. Its a common problem. Dont believe any of the ratings.

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    FWIW the DAA used in the studies is the same one in the SNS DAA. (Sodium D.... blanking on the rest of the full name sorry )
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    Ah I see. I picked up AI's DAA and couldnt be happier with it, would imagine the same with SNS DAA since I've had nothing but great stuff from them too. Is there any real benefits to taking Testforce that I wouldnt see with my current DAA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSD77 View Post
    Ah I see. I picked up AI's DAA and couldnt be happier with it, would imagine the same with SNS DAA since I've had nothing but great stuff from them too. Is there any real benefits to taking Testforce that I wouldnt see with my current DAA?
    It's tough to tell as there is no research on added sarcosine. In my experiences, the effects were pretty much identical for both
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    I could be wrong as I have not researched much, but the DAA/Agmatine combo SNS sells is supposed to be along the same lines of sarcosine + DAA.

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    I don't believe all DAA is equal, I've used the Primordial Performance DAA and it went swell. I then tried the bulk Nutraplanet DAA and I got bad anxiety on it. I went back to PP DAA and it was peaches. Never gonna buy NP bulk products again after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    I could be wrong as I have not researched much, but the DAA/Agmatine combo SNS sells is supposed to be along the same lines of sarcosine + DAA.

    Correct me if I am wrong coop dog
    Haha thanks for the shout out natty. I believe sarcosine is an NMDA co-agonist while agmatine is an NMDA antagonist. However, that is not to say that agmatine supplementation with DAA is not without merit:

    "Agmatine is said to serve as an endogenous neuroprotective neuromodulator which is co-released during neurotransmitter release. Agmatine is a specific competitive antagonist of the NMDA receptor and it's guanidine moiety makes it different than traditional NMDA receptor antagonists. The important thing to distinguish here is that exogenous application of Agmatine and D-Aspartic acid work on different mechanisms for the NMDA receptor, so regardless of one being an antagonist and the other an agonist, they do not overlap. Exogenous D-aspartic acid application utilizes the R-type VGCCs and none of the others, while exogenous Agmatine is said to use the L-type VGCCs and shows no signs of inhibition of the R-type VGCCs.

    Another important thing to note is that Agmatine was found as an effective preventative method when it comes to glutamatergic NMDA cell death."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Haha thanks for the shout out natty. I believe sarcosine is an NMDA co-agonist while agmatine is an NMDA antagonist. However, that is not to say that agmatine supplementation with DAA is not without merit:

    "Agmatine is said to serve as an endogenous neuroprotective neuromodulator which is co-released during neurotransmitter release. Agmatine is a specific competitive antagonist of the NMDA receptor and it's guanidine moiety makes it different than traditional NMDA receptor antagonists. The important thing to distinguish here is that exogenous application of Agmatine and D-Aspartic acid work on different mechanisms for the NMDA receptor, so regardless of one being an antagonist and the other an agonist, they do not overlap. Exogenous D-aspartic acid application utilizes the R-type VGCCs and none of the others, while exogenous Agmatine is said to use the L-type VGCCs and shows no signs of inhibition of the R-type VGCCs.

    Another important thing to note is that Agmatine was found as an effective preventative method when it comes to glutamatergic NMDA cell death."
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    Quote Originally Posted by CobbledPath
    I don't believe all DAA is equal, I've used the Primordial Performance DAA and it went swell. I then tried the bulk Nutraplanet DAA and I got bad anxiety on it. I went back to PP DAA and it was peaches. Never gonna buy NP bulk products again after that.
    Exact same scenario for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSD77 View Post
    Ah I see. I picked up AI's DAA and couldnt be happier with it, would imagine the same with SNS DAA since I've had nothing but great stuff from them too. Is there any real benefits to taking Testforce that I wouldnt see with my current DAA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Instead of coming in here and showing pictures of company produced bloodwork, fancy images, or posting product write ups I will tell you the best stack you can use, best bang for your buck, and best results you will see. Its pretty simple really.

    1)

    This is DAA. DAA works. Take 3000-32000mg per day.

    DAA can be made better though. DAA works by increasing your body's level of testosterone. When your testosterone increases your estrogen also increases.

    Why?

    Testosterone converts to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. There is no way around it...UNLESS...you take an aromatase inhibitor. Enter product 2.



    Erase is a real, synthetic, aromatase inhibitor. When the aromatase enzyme is inhibited your testosterone levels will rise due to less estrogen being converted.

    You are now coupling this with DAA, which is increasing testosterone through its own mechanism.

    The result?

    Two products working together to increase your testosterone, via two different mechanisms. Pure ingredients. Results you can feel. You dont need to get bloodwork to see if its working. You will know its working.

    3 capsules of Erase per day. 3 capsules of DAA per day.

    Enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ev52 View Post
    Triazole and activate are excellent. Add vidatest to the stack for libido, incredible endurance and an overall great feeling thanks to the potent adaptogens. VidaTest and triazole make for an unbelievable stack.
    I apologize for bringing up an older post but I'm new here and I've been inundated with information in this forum alone in regards to supplements. I've never taken any supplements before other than creatine and whey protein.

    Before I asked my questions a little background:

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    -- I like to train at home since I have all the equipment I need and it's cheaper and convenient
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    At this point of my life I feel like I've hit a brick wall in terms of leaning out and muscle gain that is why looking into test boosters. Maybe my test is low -- no blood work to prove it but my wife says my libido is definitely low . My goal is to become leaner (~ 8% body fat) and to gain maybe 10 pounds of muscle.

    So what I read so far is that Triazole, Activate Xtreme and VidaTest would be a killer combination in terms of getting cut and energy levels.

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    I concur with the DAA+Erase stack. Simple, cheapest, and most effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy
    I concur with the DAA+Erase stack. Simple, cheapest, and most effective.
    Very effective stack there. I like Erase+Supremacy but I'm curious to try Intimidate with it see if it works better for me cause GI issues with DAA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    Very effective stack there. I like Erase+Supremacy but I'm curious to try Intimidate with it see if it works better for me cause GI issues with DAA.
    Never tried Supremacy yet
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