Best natural t-booster for muscle mass

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  1. Best natural t-booster for muscle mass


    Greetings-

    I am new to anabolicminds and was looking to gain some knowledge.

    What in your opinion is the best supplement to naturally boost testosterone in hopes of gaining muscle mass? I would prefer something that was limited in terms of side effects. Also, if there is one you truly believe in, but does have some sides, what is something to offset or counteract the possible negatives--in regards of a possible stack?

    Many thanks in advance.


  2. X-Factor is great for strength gains, but not classified as a T-booster; its arachidonic acid

    T-Boosters/AIs: My favorites have been Bioforge v3, Core TEST, or Triazole

    Depending on your budget, DAA, or DAA+Inhibit E is a very popular stack and dirt cheap for its effectiveness.

  3. I've read up a bit on DAA, thinking of going that route due to the price! What exactly does the supp you mentioned to stack with it do?

    Thanks for the reply.
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  4. I'm using DAA and Tropinol right now, and already noticing a difference. Going to be throwing in Testabolan to maximize free test and Reversitol for estrogen control. Other great options would be bulk DAA in general, Erase for cortisol/estrogen, and Triazole
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  5. honestly, proper diet and training will give you mass.
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  6. Anabeta and DAA. Prepare to eat constantly.

  7. I am thinking of trying bulk DAA powder and either Erase or Triozole...are there different benefits for Erase or Triozole or would it be a one or the other thing?

    Also-what benefits can one expect from a stack like this?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla
    honestly, proper diet and training will give you mass.
    I agree. All I've used in regards to supplements is creatine (con-cret right now) and Jacked (which hasn't done much for me in a while...even after a month off).

    Been going up in terms of weights each week, just wondering if there is something great I'm missing out on.

  9. Formula-X, and Anabeta for mass!
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  10. if you want just pure mass, DAA + Anabeta would get a five star vote from me
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Formula-X, and Anabeta for mass!
    Damn I was thinking Division 1 and TCF 1! Anabeta seems great unfortunately I haven't used it so I can't give feedback
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Damn I was thinking Division 1 and TCF 1! Anabeta seems great unfortunately I haven't used it so I can't give feedback
    Division 1/TitaniumXL is a good one too
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  13. I vote for DAA, effective and doesn't make a whole in your pocket! But I also like the combo of AX Mass-FX and PES Erase... The mental effects they have on me is awesome, feel like I'm a new person and that extra "go" in the gym makes a huge difference!

  14. +6 on DAA. i'd run it with triazole but it isn't necessary.

  15. Thanks guys for all the replies. I appreciate. I have red some posts on the forum from people who used Activate Xtreme and Triozole together. You all know much about this stack? On the retail sites, the reviews don't look all that great.

    Sorry to have so many questions...there is just SO much out there.

    I have a 10-month old little girl at home and every time I sit down to research, she takes over the comp. Also, I am a teacher, so that leaves little time for much else! Had a quick break at work.

  16. Everybody will say DAA if you want to go with bulbline then phytoserm. But DAA is da sheznet!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by lboston
    Thanks guys for all the replies. I appreciate. I have red some posts on the forum from people who used Activate Xtreme and Triozole together. You all know much about this stack? On the retail sites, the reviews don't look all that great.

    Sorry to have so many questions...there is just SO much out there.

    I have a 10-month old little girl at home and every time I sit down to research, she takes over the comp. Also, I am a teacher, so that leaves little time for much else! Had a quick break at work.
    Please excuse my horrible spelling! As a teacher I had hope to be a better speller...unfortunately, that's not the case!

  18. My vote after trying MANY is Endosurge with Erase or another AI of choice. It is able to be ran for 8 weeks and if diet is right, I could see 4-8 pounds of good lean mass being added. Granted, you could do that in 4 weeks on a PH/DS but you said natural so that is how I would do it.
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  19. you can always do DAA + Anabeta + Erase
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  20. I'm a fan of Beast Super Test to be honest. I took it while bulking and it undoubtably helped me gain a decent amount of size

  21. Quote Originally Posted by dcne02
    Anabeta and DAA. Prepare to eat constantly.
    Two ppl suggested Anabeta & DAA. Can someone suggest dosages for each? Perhaps timing too? Like DAA right before bed?

    Thanx all

  22. Anabeta+Endosurge is my pick. 6 of each; i.e. 2caps 3x a day. Mmmhmm

    Joseph, if you want to do Anabeta+DAA, I'd still say 6 a day of anabeta and ~3g of DAA before your workout.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by josephd79

    Two ppl suggested Anabeta & DAA. Can someone suggest dosages for each? Perhaps timing too? Like DAA right before bed?

    Thanx all
    Anabeta 1/1/1/1 with meals. DAA 3g a day with breakfast. I mix it with OJ.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by dcne02

    Anabeta 1/1/1/1 with meals. DAA 3g a day with breakfast. I mix it with OJ.
    Have you noticed some good gains with this stack? Mass, strength, etc?

  25. I have not used it personally, yet, but I have yet to read a bad review of any of the Bioforge test boosters.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by josephd79

    Two ppl suggested Anabeta & DAA. Can someone suggest dosages for each? Perhaps timing too? Like DAA right before bed?

    Thanx all
    What would be the differences b/t a DAA and Anabeta stack or a DAA and Triazole stack. Triazole is much cheaper on Nutraplaney. Are they similar at all?

  27. AnaBeta puts on actual weight. boosting test isnt its MOA, but it does boost test to an extent. this is why it would be good to stack with DAA. it increases your thirst and appetite. you will eat like a horse. then you get the test boosting from DAA...along comes strength gains and aggression. perfect stack IMO
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Anabeta+Endosurge is my pick. 6 of each; i.e. 2caps 3x a day. Mmmhmm

    Joseph, if you want to do Anabeta+DAA, I'd still say 6 a day of anabeta and ~3g of DAA before your workout.
    I wish I responded well to Anabeta but many do so that is a stack I will also recommend. PES products are legit and so are BPS so naturally they go well together. The addition of an AI like Erase to that would make for one amazing stack.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  29. Quote Originally Posted by lboston

    Have you noticed some good gains with this stack? Mass, strength, etc?
    Yes. Very good strength gains, I've ran this stack twice before. However, both times I noticed size gains starting around week 4. So I would recommend two bottles of Anabeta. Run them both for 6-8 weeks.

  30. Should you do any type of PCT if you do a AnaBeta + DAA cycle? An AI maybe?

  31. Quote Originally Posted by gward View Post
    Should you do any type of PCT if you do a AnaBeta + DAA cycle? An AI maybe?
    Nope, PCT isn't needed.
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  32. Actually....I've been wanting to run this...maybe in December or something I'll try to run it, but I think the below stack could be the best non-hormonal stack you could possibly do at the moment:

    AnaBeta
    Erase
    EndoSurge
    Testforce 2
    LCLT/ALCAR/PLCAR
    Krill Oil / Fish Oils (should be staple anyway)
    Toco 8

    You get test boosting, GH boosting and prolactin control, estrogen control, increase in free testosterone, increased appetite and aggression. And none of those benefits even touch on what the addition of Krill, Carnitines, and Toco 8 added to the mix will bring.

    Carnitines, Krill, and Toco 8 are staples of mine anyway, but my mouths been watering to try the other parts of the stack for quite some time.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    Actually....I've been wanting to run this...maybe in December or something I'll try to run it, but I think the below stack could be the best non-hormonal stack you could possibly do at the moment:

    AnaBeta
    Erase
    EndoSurge
    Testforce 2
    LCLT/ALCAR/PLCAR
    Krill Oil / Fish Oils (should be staple anyway)
    Toco 8

    You get test boosting, GH boosting and prolactin control, estrogen control, increase in free testosterone, increased appetite and aggression. And none of those benefits even touch on what the addition of Krill, Carnitines, and Toco 8 added to the mix will bring.

    Carnitines, Krill, and Toco 8 are staples of mine anyway, but my mouths been watering to try the other parts of the stack for quite some time.
    Unless you are bulking I would drop the Anabeta but that is just me. I would do all of that but run it 9 8 weeks and use the money you would spend on the Anabeta for additional EndoSurge and Erase. DAA I would only use as a kicker for 30 days, not all the way through. Should be a fun run either way, I am sure strength would go up something fierce by the end if you are eating right.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  34. Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    Actually....I've been wanting to run this...maybe in December or something I'll try to run it, but I think the below stack could be the best non-hormonal stack you could possibly do at the moment:

    AnaBeta
    Erase
    EndoSurge
    Testforce 2
    LCLT/ALCAR/PLCAR
    Krill Oil / Fish Oils (should be staple anyway)
    Toco 8

    You get test boosting, GH boosting and prolactin control, estrogen control, increase in free testosterone, increased appetite and aggression. And none of those benefits even touch on what the addition of Krill, Carnitines, and Toco 8 added to the mix will bring.

    Carnitines, Krill, and Toco 8 are staples of mine anyway, but my mouths been watering to try the other parts of the stack for quite some time.
    That's an AWESOME stack. Gonna be pricey, but man should it be comprehensive and effective as hell!
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  35. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Unless you are bulking I would drop the Anabeta but that is just me. I would do all of that but run it 9 8 weeks and use the money you would spend on the Anabeta for additional EndoSurge and Erase. DAA I would only use as a kicker for 30 days, not all the way through. Should be a fun run either way, I am sure strength would go up something fierce by the end if you are eating right.
    Hmm...that all makes sense. Good point with the Anabeta along w/ the bulking. But why only use DAA for 30 days? I'm not against the idea of only using for 30 days per se, b/c then you get another 4 weeks of Erase to run after that for test boost/estrogen control. Just curious as to why you recommend that.

  36. Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    Hmm...that all makes sense. Good point with the Anabeta along w/ the bulking. But why only use DAA for 30 days? I'm not against the idea of only using for 30 days per se, b/c then you get another 4 weeks of Erase to run after that for test boost/estrogen control. Just curious as to why you recommend that.
    Toxicity and the law of diminishing returns. One it is best cycled on a 1:1 ratio, time on=time off, and you have so much free test boost from everything else after the initial hit it become redundant. Also, I read somewhere it can be bad to run it for too long, you could if you dropped the dose to 1.5 grams a day after 2 weeks as all its test boosting is supposed to happen in that time frame if memory serves me right.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  37. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Toxicity and the law of diminishing returns. One it is best cycled on a 1:1 ratio, time on=time off, and you have so much free test boost from everything else after the initial hit it become redundant. Also, I read somewhere it can be bad to run it for too long, you could if you dropped the dose to 1.5 grams a day after 2 weeks as all its test boosting is supposed to happen in that time frame if memory serves me right.
    Point well taken, and I figured that was along the lines of your thinking. Hey...saves $$$ in the end!

  38. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Anabeta+Endosurge is my pick. 6 of each; i.e. 2caps 3x a day. Mmmhmm

    Joseph, if you want to do Anabeta+DAA, I'd still say 6 a day of anabeta and ~3g of DAA before your workout.
    Good looking out...thank you and dcne02 for the tip.

  39. DAA + Anabeta
    shut up and squat!!!

  40. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny

    Toxicity and the law of diminishing returns. One it is best cycled on a 1:1 ratio, time on=time off, and you have so much free test boost from everything else after the initial hit it become redundant. Also, I read somewhere it can be bad to run it for too long, you could if you dropped the dose to 1.5 grams a day after 2 weeks as all its test boosting is supposed to happen in that time frame if memory serves me right.
    If I do a DAA/ anabeta stack any need for any form of AI or estrogen blocker?

    Also- given the fact I plan on having another kid in the near future, has there been any discussion on hurting semen quality or reproductive risks?
  

  
 

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