BCAAs .. Do they need to be taken as stand alone supp?

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  1. BCAAs .. Do they need to be taken as stand alone supp?


    This may seem like an elementary question, but hopefully someone can give me a solid answer. I've never really worried much about taking BCAAs outside of those naturally occurring in my protein powder. Is there a substantial benefit to taking BCAAs on their own as opposed to the 15-20G I am getting a day in protein shakes?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by useyourhead View Post
    This may seem like an elementary question, but hopefully someone can give me a solid answer. I've never really worried much about taking BCAAs outside of those naturally occurring in my protein powder. Is there a substantial benefit to taking BCAAs on their own as opposed to the 15-20G I am getting a day in protein shakes?
    Not much unless cutting in a heavy deficit.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Not much unless cutting in a heavy deficit.
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  4. Just to add my 2 cents. I found this quote:

    During resting periods when other fuel sources, such as carbohydrates and fats, are available they spare the BCAA's from oxidation, leaving them available for use in protein synthesis which is what you want them to do - serve you by building muscle. The important thing is that although BCAA's account for only about 20% of the total amino acids in a protein meal they account for 50-90% of the total amino acids released into general circulation to be taken up by the muscles. BCAA's are the most abundant amino acids incorporated into muscle protein and make up 1/3 of this muscle.
    They are also heavily catabolized (broken down and used for energy) during exercise. These 2 reasons plus the fact that the body can't make it's own BCAA's increases the need for BCAA's for athletes. {END QUOTE}

    Though you're getting them from your protein sources, the amounts of BCAAs could be lower than you calculate. Some protein supplements specifically add BCAA's on top of the normal amount. They definitely don't hurt by adding them to your diet or preworkout drink. Xtend is a top seller across many online supp stores for a reason, but there are less expensive versions of BCAAs out there to try.

  5. thanks guys. ill prob still keep taking a scoop pre or intra work out but that is about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by useyourhead View Post
    thanks guys. ill prob still keep taking a scoop pre or intra work out but that is about it.
    it does seem to help with recovery taking it that way
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  7. I've found bcaa's and eaa's to be highly valuable when dieting and bulking. Had made tremendous differences for me.

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  8. i dont know any sciene behind it but i always put then in my drink druring my W/o

  9. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Not much unless cutting in a heavy deficit.
    i used to agree with this completely. But after taking BCAAs intra-workout, I realized that I recover quicker and I experience slightly better stamina throughout my workout..
    -It's not about what you're doing, it's about how you're doing it.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by 808rebel View Post
    i used to agree with this completely. But after taking BCAAs intra-workout, I realized that I recover quicker and I experience slightly better stamina throughout my workout..
    i agree with this
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by 808rebel View Post
    i used to agree with this completely. But after taking BCAAs intra-workout, I realized that I recover quicker and I experience slightly better stamina throughout my workout..
    I also experience this. Good post.
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  12. If I had to pick only one supplement would be BCAA

    I remember the day i started megadosing them, it was one of those "oohhh-moment"
    it's probably the sup that makes the most difference for me, for everything
    recovery, endurance, strength.. It the base for everything else for me, the essential.

    The ones contained in whey proteins are not the same as BCAA in free form
    PS: to be noted that I'm always dieting..

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  13. anybody recomend a bcaa? the one i have now i like especially becuase it was lik 30 bucks came with a dick load of servings and buy one get one free sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofargone561
    anybody recomend a bcaa? the one i have now i like especially becuase it was lik 30 bucks came with a dick load of servings and buy one get one free sale.
    Recoverpro is inexpensive and the flavor is spectacular
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  15. Nutraplanet has 500Grams for $25. If you already have a preworkout, adding a scoop of this powder would be the most cost effective.

    I've found the pills from other brands need too many at once. Like some are 6 caps for 3000mg of Leucine. The flavorless powders tend to not mix too well, but it's not bad. I think I said Xtend is a top seller for a reason. It mixes well and tastes great but is a little on the pricey side, for just BCAAs and Glutamine. (another MUST have, along the same lines of BCAAs).

  16. Quote Originally Posted by josephd79 View Post
    Nutraplanet has 500Grams for $25. If you already have a preworkout, adding a scoop of this powder would be the most cost effective.

    I've found the pills from other brands need too many at once. Like some are 6 caps for 3000mg of Leucine. The flavorless powders tend to not mix too well, but it's not bad. I think I said Xtend is a top seller for a reason. It mixes well and tastes great but is a little on the pricey side, for just BCAAs and Glutamine. (another MUST have, along the same lines of BCAAs).
    i dont like xtend for the fact its big money for little servings i already have a pre workout and a huge tub of glutamine i was just looking for most cost affective BCAA supp

  17. Quote Originally Posted by sofargone561 View Post
    anybody recomend a bcaa? the one i have now i like especially becuase it was lik 30 bucks came with a dick load of servings and buy one get one free sale.
    I do 3kg of bulk and 3kg Xtend (1 x flavor), Xtend taste awesome,
    and the flavors are very strong
    I mix the two and have 6kg of flavored BCAA + the bonus ingredients from Xtend
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    I do 3kg of bulk and 3kg Xtend (1 x flavor), Xtend taste awesome,
    and the flavors are very strong
    I mix the two and have 6kg of flavored BCAA + the bonus ingredients from Xtend
    Doing this. Thanks for saving me some cash, might add some glutamine to make it closed to xtend properties.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    If I had to pick only one supplement would be BCAA

    I remember the day i started megadosing them, it was one of those "oohhh-moment"
    it's probably the sup that makes the most difference for me, for everything
    recovery, endurance, strength.. It the base for everything else for me, the essential.

    The ones contained in whey proteins are not the same as BCAA in free form
    PS: to be noted that I'm always dieting..

    my 2c
    what is the difference between free from BCAAs and those in naturally occurring in whey? Also what do you guys think of the modern BCAA product by USP? Also i've never looked deeply into EAA supplementation. Is that something worth looking into?

    thanks for all the responses.

  20. EAAs/BCAAs are extremely important IMO.

  21. I am a big believer in bcaa supplementation I have them throughout the day and also during workout and if I don't have then for a specific period of time I can really notice the difference without a doubt.
    Recovery is less and more doms after sessions

  22. Quote Originally Posted by OJay View Post
    Recovery is less and more doms after sessions
    You have more DOMS with bcaa's then without?
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL

    Recoverpro is inexpensive and the flavor is spectacular
    I have the recoverpro. I love it. I take one scoop immediately after my lift then I'll have a protein shake like 20 mins after that.. I'm wondering what the benefits of using it pre workout (fasted training) would be.. I'm worries using them will keep my body from burning fat n calories for energy... Using the bcaa instead! Thoughts? I am always dieting / trying to stay lean as possible. Is taking it immediately post workout stopping the calorie burning too though??

  24. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    You have more DOMS with bcaa's then without?
    That might happen because you're able to push more/go back to the set faster..
    I remember when I first started megadosing BCAA years ago it was like that.
    But it's because you're hitting harder, wouldn't be because the BCAA cause that
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  25. I see a couple blanket BCAAs are good statements. Here's a simple low down

    BCAAs, specifically Leucine, through their many mechanisms cause a spike in muscle protein synthesis(MPS). MPS has somewhat of a refractory period and BCAAs can be used to spike MPS every 3-4 hours. Your whey protein or a high protein meal should have very similar impacts on MPS and adding BCAAs to those meals won't cause a more intense spike, but BCAAs can be really quick and easy to get in every 3-4 hours with about 10 G each time. Spiking MPS every few hours can, over long periods with consistent usage, lead to significant impacts on muscle growth on a surplus, or muscle loss in times of a caloric deficit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I have the recoverpro. I love it. I take one scoop immediately after my lift then I'll have a protein shake like 20 mins after that.. I'm wondering what the benefits of using it pre workout (fasted training) would be.. I'm worries using them will keep my body from burning fat n calories for energy... Using the bcaa instead! Thoughts? I am always dieting / trying to stay lean as possible. Is taking it immediately post workout stopping the calorie burning too though??
    if you count BCAA calories as per protein calories (which is iffy to begin with, their usage is different) a 1 scoop serving is 24 calories, so won't have much impact from that respect.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    I do 3kg of bulk and 3kg Xtend (1 x flavor), Xtend taste awesome,
    and the flavors are very strong
    I mix the two and have 6kg of flavored BCAA + the bonus ingredients from Xtend
    Hey now there's a great idea! I've never thought of that. Thanks for the heads up...now I know what I need to do to save some cash. Props!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by EC99SS View Post
    Hey now there's a great idea! I've never thought of that. Thanks for the heads up...now I know what I need to do to save some cash. Props!
    No prob
    I've been doin' that forever
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  29. Keep in mind that amino acids also have calories so too much of it can turn into fat.

    Just a random info

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Colbert View Post
    Keep in mind that amino acids also have calories so too much of it can turn into fat.

    Just a random info
    Most bb megadosing BCAA are cutting, so calorie deficit, I wouldn't worry about that..
    But yes of course, as everything else, the calories must be counted and macros need to be
    in tune no matter from where the cals are coming
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