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Will it be a good preworkout to mix karbolyn and jack 3d
Are you talking about taste or effectsNo matter what you mixed Jack3d with, it will never be "good" :biglaugh:
I was referring to it as a whole, the profile, effectiveness, etc.Are you talking about taste or effects
Thanks. I prefer WF as well. I used a bottle of jack3d. It was high stimulant content, too high for my liking (heart palps never fun when lifting...)Jack3d has only ever given me energy.. I don't ever get good pumps with it. I like controlled labs white flood. Seems to work best for me.
Agreed 100%.Agreed^^ use the karbolin post workout with some protein or bcaas
Never tried jacked, but have tried various other 1,3-containing products with no success. I get no stimulation from it, but unfortunately I do get the crash weirdly.my body does not respond to jack3d at all. ive even tried 4 scoops before and nothing. i got more energy from eating a cookie lol
I get an effect, but nothing like I should IMO. Then again, ephedrine puts me to sleep as well. Caffeine wires me. Whenever I take excederin which has 120mg of caffeine for a headache, im wired non-stop.Never tried jacked, but have tried various other 1,3-containing products with no success. I get no stimulation from it, but unfortunately I do get the crash weirdly.
same stuff happens to me when i tried jack3d. i get better energy from taking a 2 hour nap before the gym then taking 4 scoops of jack3d lolNever tried jacked, but have tried various other 1,3-containing products with no success. I get no stimulation from it, but unfortunately I do get the crash weirdly.
good point. but i like the idea of a smaller tub, smaller scoop. assault has so much powder that when i drink even half of a serving, it makes my stomach sick. what happened to good ol (original) NO shotgun. or even the original mesomorphI don't know if Jack3d started it originally, but the whole small container concentrated preworkout (Jack3d, VPX Anarchy, Six Star Nutrition Ignition, 1MR) all seem like the same stack of ingredients. They work to 'get you going' but a Monster or 5-hour energy will do that. Personally, the other PWOs that focus on pump (AAKG), Muscular needs (BCAAs, Glutamine) and a moderate level of stim (Caffeine) cover a broader spectrum.
Anyone ever see that Gatorade commercial for the G Series, where the first product the athlete is taking is like a squeeze gel pack. The announcer says something like "Fuel for your game, not your nerves". I totally think that's a knock against the stimulant laden ones like Jacke3d.
I was playing pickup basketball and one of the guys had one of the Gatorade Prime packs beforehand. I asked if I could see it, because I was curious what their ingredient profile was for this "pre-game" concoction...Anyone ever see that Gatorade commercial for the G Series, where the first product the athlete is taking is like a squeeze gel pack. The announcer says something like "Fuel for your game, not your nerves". I totally think that's a knock against the stimulant laden ones like Jacke3d.
And I can't find a stupid label anywhere here (of course Gatorade's website is useless in all of this), but I'm pretty sure maltodextrin was listed in there, as well.01 Prime contains a concentrated blend of carbohydrates, B vitamins and electrolytes, delivery energy and helping to sustain your body's ability to burn additional carbohydrates when taken 15 minutes before competition. However you prepare, 01 Prime helps your preparation pay off.
Electrolytes: 110 milligrams of sodium and 35 milligrams of potassium per 8-oz. serving to help maintain hydration so you can make a statement early.
B Vitamins: Good source (10% Daily Value) of B vitamins - Niacin (B3), Pantothenic Acid (B5) and Pyridoxine (B6) - that aid in energy metabolism as part of a daily diet.
Carbohydrates: Kick-start muscles with 25 grams of carbohydrates to start strong without caffeine.
Yea, I hear ya... some are excessive powders... Superpump is avg. VPX NO Shotgun MHF is a personal fav, but is a little more per scoop. You can always just take half a scoop. Many of these 'proprietary profiles' are 11G to 13G of ingredients. Half a scoop would be 5.5 to 6.5 Grams, which, coincidentally, is the gram amount of Jack3d.good point. but i like the idea of a smaller tub, smaller scoop. assault has so much powder that when i drink even half of a serving, it makes my stomach sick. what happened to good ol (original) NO shotgun. or even the original mesomorph
That is flat out nuts you caffeine addict!same stuff happens to me when i tried jack3d. i get better energy from taking a 2 hour nap before the gym then taking 4 scoops of jack3d lol
Please explain, not trying to discredit, just interested in the science behind it.I'm taking n2amp and it's amazing!
But take karbolyn during your workout with some hydrolyzed whey cause your muscles take in carbs during exercise without the presents of insulin.
Please explain, not trying to discredit, just interested in the science behind it.
Yea, I'm wondering why that would happen. One of my favorite preworkouts is VPX NoShotgun-MHF1 which has a good amount of hydrolyzed protein & bcaa's. Would the inclusion of that prior to working out cause that insulin concern?
Dave Chappel and 'on crack' is redundant...Ready4war was descent for energy I remember liking it back in the day. But I'm pretty stim sensitive so a lot of stuff hits me good and I usually only half dose all my stims.
That's why I like rpm and lit up so good. Perfect amount of stims without feeling like Dave chapel on crack.
Have u tried white flood?? it doesnt have the jittery feeling either.Ready4war was descent for energy I remember liking it back in the day. But I'm pretty stim sensitive so a lot of stuff hits me good and I usually only half dose all my stims.
That's why I like rpm and lit up so good. Perfect amount of stims without feeling like Dave chapel on crack.
I have a long time ago. And I remember liking it pretty good actually. but I haven't tried it in a long time.Have u tried white flood?? it doesnt have the jittery feeling either.