as far as NeoVar goes, I bloat off of it as well, but i still notice a slight pump. also, when i take it post workout, i make sure i eat sugar. something like a protein shake or tea. i follow that with a meal of carbs like pasta + chicken...etc
My preferences are NeoVar by AppNut, Creatine Nitrate by APS, Creapure by PP
the only creatine i have not responded to is Green Mag and sometimes i dont even respond to mono. I cycle it. when i get on mono and dont notice anything for 3 weeks, i switch to CN.
something that has worked for me is this: Workout Days - CN pre workout, NeoVar post workout
Nonworkout Days - Creapure