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Hey guys i was wondering if using X-factor and E-bol together is a good idea? does it have a synergy? or do they not work great together?
thanks alot guys
thanks alot guys
Yeah bro im really thinking of stacking ebol with x-factor and anabeta. but just want to know if the x-factor and ebol work together!? as herad that ebol counteracts the inflamatory effects of aa!? this correct bro?I have alway wanted to stack the two. I think they would make one of the best natty anabolic stacks.
I've also heard/read that XFactor/Ebol (ecdy) is a great combo...have only heard to not stack them based on 'theories' on how they 'might' counteract each other...XF/Anbeta also a great stack too.....It's fine. I saw a guy running the blueprint with this combo and great results.
Initially, I was against XF given concurrent administration of Ecdy. At the time, the proposed mode of action for XF was as a pro-inflammatory, leading to beneficial prostaglandin release. This would seem the polar opposite of Ecdy's known anti-inflammatory attributes. You see/hear it all the time - the stuff greatly mitigates DOMS, when used appropriately. Moreso for certain Ecdy's than others, but even the universally cited 20-H demonstrates this effect, in high enough doses.Hey guys i was wondering if using X-factor and E-bol together is a good idea? does it have a synergy? or do they not work great together?
thanks alot guys
BF3 is on my to try list...haven't seen a bad review of it yet!IMO Bio Forge v3 > E-Bol
Bio Forge v3 is loaded with adaptogens, it's amazing and all the logs running the two together were stellar. I was eating 4.5k a day over the summer while busting my ass in the gym, added like 6-7 lbs of lbm and didn't see a change in body fat. Strength shot up so fast at the end it was stupid
The answer here is somewhat complex, so I'll try and keep it simple. You might think of it as follows...I'm really confused here. X-Factor supposedly increases anabolism by increasing DOMS while Ecdy increases anabolism by reducing DOMS. Which is it?
Thanks man, I enjoy what I do...^^good info mix!
BF V3 is a fantastic product. The adaptogen of choice here is a primo extract of Shilajit, or the Indian cousin of Russian Moomiyo/Mumie. Some of you may remember it from the late 1980's, when Atletika (maker of Retibol) carried it. It is/was a black, tar like substance rich in restorative nutrients and prized in their local medicine. As adaptogens take their rightful place in sports nutrition, you can bet more and more will be showing up in test boosters, intra and post workout products, etc.. Their MOA (mode of action) completely differs though, from what the market is used to (creatine saturation, androgen receptor docking in the cases of pro-hormones, etc.).IMO Bio Forge v3 > E-Bol
Bio Forge v3 is loaded with adaptogens, it's amazing and all the logs running the two together were stellar. I was eating 4.5k a day over the summer while busting my ass in the gym, added like 6-7 lbs of lbm and didn't see a change in body fat. Strength shot up so fast at the end it was stupid
I dig what your saying man, adaptogens kick ass. Over the summer I pushed myself so much father than I've ever imagined I could handle and was using both XF and BF v3. My recovery was superb, fastest recovery I'd ever made from leg days, and the best sleep of my life. So under rated and hopefully we see more quality ones come out soon. The larger the supply the cheaper they becomeBF V3 is a fantastic product. The adaptogen of choice here is a primo extract of Shilajit, or the Indian cousin of Russian Moomiyo/Mumie. Some of you may remember it from the late 1980's, when Atletika (maker of Retibol) carried it. It is/was a black, tar like substance rich in restorative nutrients and prized in their local medicine. As adaptogens take their rightful place in sports nutrition, you can bet more and more will be showing up in test boosters, intra and post workout products, etc.. Their MOA (mode of action) completely differs though, from what the market is used to (creatine saturation, androgen receptor docking in the cases of pro-hormones, etc.).
It will be interesting to see how willing the average consumer is, to modify their training to take advantage. Right now, many are only scratching the surface of what adaptogens can do for them. Generate the proper environmental stress, and adaptogens will deliver results that people will stand up and take note of. In fact, this is already happening...
You hit the nail on the head man... Adaptogens are fast becoming the drug-free trainee's weapon of choice. Why? Because the better/faster you adapt to any given stimulus, the more productive training sessions completed per week/month/year.I dig what your saying man, adaptogens kick ass. Over the summer I pushed myself so much father than I've ever imagined I could handle and was using both XF and BF v3. My recovery was superb, fastest recovery I'd ever made from leg days, and the best sleep of my life. So under rated and hopefully we see more quality ones come out soon. The larger the supply the cheaper they become
Yah I've seen your program and get a little bit of hate here and there and a lot of love too, but I won't disregard anything till I've tried it for myself or beaten the subject to death lol.You hit the nail on the head man... Adaptogens are fast becoming the drug-free trainee's weapon of choice. Why? Because the better/faster you adapt to any given stimulus, the more productive training sessions completed per week/month/year.
You'd also be hard pressed, to find anyone on the street who'd say life isn't stressful today. That's a different type of stress, but it illustrates a point: life (including lifting), has become incredibly complex. I was into it LONG ago, before the internet came along... Today, you have information overload. The real challenge is to design a training program (NOT a routine), to compliment them.
Given adaptogens function differently than any other class of nutraceutical, therein lies the challenge. Many will simply introduce said adaptogen into whatever training routine they're doing now and.... not much happens. In The Blueprint, I explain why. I also explain how to arrange such that they work as intended. You know you're NOT doing it right, when the directions state anything to the effect of "you need to cycle this product X weeks on and Y weeks off...". Bullshix.
Adaptogens are not hormonals, nor is their MOA equivalent. Adaptogens are the ammunition - you fire the gun. Glad they're working well for you...
So happy you found success with them man!Yah I've seen your program and get a little bit of hate here and there and a lot of love too, but I won't disregard anything till I've tried it for myself or beaten the subject to death lol.
When I ran Bio Forge v3 it was 3 bottles at 4 caps each day over the summer. I had the best sleep ever which was awesome cause I worked the 5 am shift hah. I read a bit about adaptogens and a few weeks in decided I wasn't pushing myself hard enough and drastically increased the volume of my routine. I was busting my ass and my body seemed to handle it just fine. My numbers were skyrocketing and ironically, once I stopped a few weeks later I kept going with the momentum I had and suffered a mild strain in my upper middle back during an incline BB bench set hah. The body can only take so much but one those adaptogens man I was invincible. Plus iirc shilajit boosts rbc count and blood volume and my vascularity improved day to day from that. My dad thought I was using something dangerous towards the end of it hah, I was like :yodawg: its a plant, relax bro. Adaptogens are very interesting though and I think they will most certainly find a place as a staple in my regime a few years down the road when I start falling apart.
Some terrific products there, and I appreciate your interest in The Blueprint. One thing I can say is that whatever training you pursue, do keep in mind the point about adaptogens being of most value, when there's an environmental stressor to adapt to. The gains border on PH like, when that particular symphony is put together correctly...Hmm, this thread is tempting me to try an ebol + xfa + bioforge v3 stack. I have used both ebol and xfa solo and liked the results. Ebol on my bulk and xfa on my recomp. Never used bioforge and never tried the blueprint but I sure am getting tempted.
Thanks a lot. You really know your stuff. I will really have to consider picking up the blueprint to reap the most out of these products.Some terrific products there, and I appreciate your interest in The Blueprint. One thing I can say is that whatever training you pursue, do keep in mind the point about adaptogens being of most value, when there's an environmental stressor to adapt to. The gains border on PH like, when that particular symphony is put together correctly...
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Adaptogens + Physically stressed state = oh mah gawdThanks a lot. You really know your stuff. I will really have to consider picking up the blueprint to reap the most out of these products.
Yeah, I've been reading up on that physically stressed state and saw some interesting things about lowering and raising calories as you use adaptogens. It makes sense, I'm just going to have to figure out how to do it the most optimum way. I figure I can get the best of both worlds with the different adaptogens in both ebol abd bf, while also taking advantage of the increased test and also the AA from XFA. Should be a really fun run.Adaptogens + Physically stressed state = oh mah gawd
I may gave the BP a run over the summer when I can control everything but during the school semesters my routine gets torqued a lot around classes, right now I'm just doing WSB4SB. Mixelflick does know what hes talking about but imo BF > E-Bol, its got a fair bit more adaptogens in it too so I see it holding up better in a BP run then E-bol. No hate on TL but just not a fan of E-Bol. Much bigger fan of Bio Forge and it's also got other good ****, like at a optimal dosing 8000 IUs vit D a day + zinc pic.
have u run either bioforge v3 or ebol? im about to run the blueprint now and i have one bottle of e-bol but tempted to throw in bioforge after i run out of ebol just to compare the two as ive seen so many people raging about bioforge lolAdaptogens + Physically stressed state = oh mah gawd
I may gave the BP a run over the summer when I can control everything but during the school semesters my routine gets torqued a lot around classes, right now I'm just doing WSB4SB. Mixelflick does know what hes talking about but imo BF > E-Bol, its got a fair bit more adaptogens in it too so I see it holding up better in a BP run then E-bol. No hate on TL but just not a fan of E-Bol. Much bigger fan of Bio Forge and it's also got other good ****, like at a optimal dosing 8000 IUs vit D a day + zinc pic.
Only Bio Forge v3, just not impressed by the E-Bol label/price tag ratio and if you're getting it for the ecdy then there are other credible sources. Bio Forge v3 is king imo.have u run either bioforge v3 or ebol? im about to run the blueprint now and i have one bottle of e-bol but tempted to throw in bioforge after i run out of ebol just to compare the two as ive seen so many people raging about bioforge lol
Appreciate it man. Gift from the BP delivered...Thanks a lot. You really know your stuff. I will really have to consider picking up the blueprint to reap the most out of these products.
Interesting stuff man. I'll look into bioforge as well. Just trying to maximize my supplement spending. I think the blueprint really helped with that. Synergy between training diet and supps.Appreciate it man. Gift from the BP delivered...
It's high time we give back to the athletes, in the interest of getting the most out of these products. While everyone is out to make a profit, there's a time and a place. In order for people to see just how powerful adaptogens are, I want the whole world to see it. I know what's about to happen of course, which is why I'm doing this...
I'm headed back to Gainsville for the night, and you're coming with me ...
I've run ebol but not bioforge v3. I had a nice bulk with ebol and I like it because it also has Turk in it. Also, I believe the way they extract their ecdy has something to do with its effectiveness. I dont know the science so I am not going to pretend that I do, all I know is that I did see progress while using it.have u run either bioforge v3 or ebol? im about to run the blueprint now and i have one bottle of e-bol but tempted to throw in bioforge after i run out of ebol just to compare the two as ive seen so many people raging about bioforge lol
Thanks a lot for the gift via PM. Extremely generous.Appreciate it man. Gift from the BP delivered...
It's high time we give back to the athletes, in the interest of getting the most out of these products. While everyone is out to make a profit, there's a time and a place. In order for people to see just how powerful adaptogens are, I want the whole world to see it. I know what's about to happen of course, which is why I'm doing this...
I'm headed back to Gainsville for the night, and you're coming with me ...
My pleasure man. As I said, its high time to help EVERYONE, get the most out of adaptogens...Thanks a lot for the gift via PM. Extremely generous.