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    vpx power shock or bsn amino x?


    thread title says it all, if you had to pick one, which would it be?

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    Amino X looks really good. Personally i use Xtend.

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    If I had to pick one I would get the cheapest one. I wouldn't tell the person forcing me to pick one but I would return it and get Scivation Xtend.

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    ^This. I wont buy anything with BSN or VPX labels
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    VPX Powershock, not even close. If you want a dedicated EAA product without the nitrates: Purple Wraath
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    Actually check this out. The ingredient/dosing profile is impressive and leagues ahead of anything else that I've ever used. Musclefeast's Anabolic Competition.

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    solid profile, and you'd only need 1/2 scoop.

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    Purple Wraath
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    I have been using purple wraath for a long time now. I got 5 tubs back when it was on sale for $40 at Nutraplanet. However, last month I had to purchase a new tub and its $55 plus shipping. I'm done with it as of tomorrow and don't really have the money for a new one. Think I'll go with something cheaper this time. I used PW specifically for intra workout. Personally I would stay with products with nitrates in them, they are not safe and have not been studied long-term. Nitrates are more for heart attack/heart disease patients and should not be used in supplements.

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    well, for starters, im not going to pay over 20 bucks for a tub of amino's.

    i get lg's bca+eaa for 14 bucks, and the kiwiwatermelon isn't the most delicious stuff, but taste okay.

    i fill my shaker to the brim, so w/e it is will be watered down for sure.

    but i was looking at those too. im sure the vpx stuff will taste chemically, like their shotgun and synthesize, which were good products but tasted awful.

    anyhow, open for 20 and under recomendations. but 55 bucks, no thanks.

    also thought about xtend, i know that stuff taste pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    well, for starters, im not going to pay over 20 bucks for a tub of amino's.

    i get lg's bca+eaa for 14 bucks, and the kiwiwatermelon isn't the most delicious stuff, but taste okay.

    i fill my shaker to the brim, so w/e it is will be watered down for sure.

    but i was looking at those too. im sure the vpx stuff will taste chemically, like their shotgun and synthesize, which were good products but tasted awful.

    anyhow, open for 20 and under recomendations. but 55 bucks, no thanks.

    also thought about xtend, i know that stuff taste pretty good.

    Yeah I'm looking for something cheaper now too. I just can't afford it anymore. Not that could before either though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Actually check this out. The ingredient/dosing profile is impressive and leagues ahead of anything else that I've ever used. Musclefeast's Anabolic Competition.

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    that has a decent price, but never heard of the company.

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    I stocked up on Xtend, LG's BCAA+EAA and RecoverPro awhile back, also stocked up on Protocol when the new version came out. I don't pay more than 20 for an intraworkout drink. But look into RecoverPro its usually a good price. It has my vote.
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    Powershock without a doubt

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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Actually check this out. The ingredient/dosing profile is impressive and leagues ahead of anything else that I've ever used. Musclefeast's Anabolic Competition.

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    Is that for real? 6 g of BCAA nitrates? That comes to around 1800mgs for nitrates alone which is down right dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
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    The 13-14$ xtend gets my vote.
    Powershock has a very strong flavor. I had the lime flavor. It would flavor 32oz easily...easily.

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    The 13-14$ xtend gets my vote.
    Powershock has a very strong flavor. I had the lime flavor. It would flavor 32oz easily...easily.
    Recoverpro is also a pretty good deal.

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    i prefer to have bcaa & eaa product.

    im going to give the lime flavor a try.

    like i said, i fill my entire shaker cup with water for 1 serving, and sip on it during my workouts, even when the shaker starts to get about halfway down, i just re fill it.

    it's flavor + a little something extra. i notice a difference in energy during my workout (could be placebo) with or without the amino's so i guess im hooked.

    thanks to all for their input.

    maybe i'll give purple wrath a try after this.

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    What kind of shaker? Bc 20-24oz produced to strong of a flavor for me to drink intra lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    that has a decent price, but never heard of the company.
    I use a ton of their products. They sold bulk creatine nitrate for quite some time. Other reputable posters on this forum can vouch for them. Google musclefeast and check out their products, no frills, just 100% quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Is that for real? 6 g of BCAA nitrates? That comes to around 1800mgs for nitrates alone which is down right dangerous
    I've used and never had a problem and check BP regularly, for whatever that's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    I've used and never had a problem and check BP regularly, for whatever that's worth.
    I find soemthing VERY wrong here then....that would be to large of a dose for most

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    I find soemthing VERY wrong here then....that would be to large of a dose for most
    I hear you, not sure I can speak to your concerns. My friends have been using their nitrate products for months all without issue and they check BP regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    I hear you, not sure I can speak to your concerns. My friends have been using their nitrate products for months all without issue and they check BP regularly.
    BP check or no BP check, 90% of the population would get a headache.
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    Bulk BCAA cheap and tons of servings, who cares about taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    BP check or no BP check, 90% of the population would get a headache.
    Not sure what to tell you, other than 100% of my friends "have yet to suffer through any headaches", or experience any other issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Bulk BCAA cheap and tons of servings, who cares about taste.
    sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, me (im probably the only one with his hand raised, again).

    any how, i looked to see if you guys had some bcaa's, didn't see any.

    but, i waited too long, and so, i had to stop by the v shop and grabbed a tub of amino x. watermelon.

    taste like a jolly rancher. mixes great with orange gatoraid.

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    I always go for EAA product, and this is why

    J Nutr. 2006 Jan;136(1 Suppl):234S-6S.
    Modulations of muscle protein metabolism by branched-chain amino acids in normal and muscle-atrophying rats.

    Kobayashi H, Kato H, Hirabayashi Y, Murakami H, Suzuki H.

    Applied Research Department, AminoScience Laboratories, Ajinomoto Co., Kawasaki, Japan. hisamine_kobayashi@ajinomoto.c om

    It has been shown that BCAAs, especially leucine, regulate skeletal muscle protein metabolism. However, it remains unclear how BCAAs regulate muscle protein metabolism and lead to anabolism in vivo. We examined muscle protein synthesis rate and breakdown rate simultaneously during BCAA infusion in muscle atrophy models as well as in normal healthy rats. Corticosterone-treated rats and hindlimb-immobilized rats were used as muscle atrophy models. Muscle protein synthesis rate and breakdown rate were measured as phenylalanine kinetics across the hindlimb. In anesthetized normal rats, BCAAs stimulated muscle protein synthesis despite low insulin concentration and did not suppress muscle protein breakdown. In corticosterone-treated rats, BCAAs failed to restore inhibited muscle protein synthesis, but reduced muscle protein breakdown. Immobilization of hindlimb increased muscle protein breakdown within a day. BCAAs did not change muscle protein metabolism, although essential amino acids (EAAs) suppressed muscle protein breakdown in hindlimb-immobilized rats. We also evaluated changes of fractional synthesis rate (FSR) of skeletal muscle protein during infusion of leucine alone or EAAs for 4 h in anesthetized normal rats. FSR showed a transient increase at 15-30 min of leucine infusion and then declined, whereas FSR stayed elevated throughout EAA infusion. We concluded that

    1) BCAAs primarily stimulate muscle protein synthesis in normal rats independently of insulin
    2) EAAs are required to maintain the BCAA stimulation of muscle protein synthesis and
    3) The effects of BCAAs on muscle protein metabolism differ between atrophy models.
    That alone makes me prefer EAAs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    I always go for EAA product, and this is why



    That alone makes me prefer EAAs!
    damn, I have been only taking BCAAs....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    damn, I have been only taking BCAAs....
    They do still work, but that study, and other research I've done, makes me question why COMPLETE protein sources contain EAAs and INCOMPLETE protein sources do not.

    Me personally I just don't even want to risk it. Why short-change yourself, when EAA products are roughly the same price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    They do still work, but that study, and other research I've done, makes me question why COMPLETE protein sources contain EAAs and INCOMPLETE protein sources do not.

    Me personally I just don't even want to risk it. Why short-change yourself, when EAA products are roughly the same price.
    The only EAA drink I took was by LG.... that stuff was horrible... tasted like rotten protein powder...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    The only EAA drink I took was by LG.... that stuff was horrible... tasted like rotten protein powder...
    lol...never tried it. never used much from LG, cept the old PHs

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    lol...never tried it. never used much from LG, cept the old PHs
    was free with their ASGT lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, me (im probably the only one with his hand raised, again).

    any how, i looked to see if you guys had some bcaa's, didn't see any.

    but, i waited too long, and so, i had to stop by the v shop and grabbed a tub of amino x. watermelon.

    taste like a jolly rancher. mixes great with orange gatoraid.
    get thru that tub of aminoX, then perhaps check our web site again & you might....might...just be pleasantly suprised...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    I always go for EAA product, and this is why



    That alone makes me prefer EAAs!
    well, i was thinking of ordering purple wrath, but it was 46 bucks at the v shop, and im not paying 10 bucks more to have it now.

    next time i'll give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    The only EAA drink I took was by LG.... that stuff was horrible... tasted like rotten protein powder...
    i just finished a tub of their eaa +bcaa, yea, it taste like other intra w/o products, but better than intra aid, and another one i tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    get thru that tub of aminoX, then perhaps check our web site again & you might....might...just be pleasantly suprised...
    ...as one is in the works...
    sounds good bro.

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    I've found both for the same price and serving. I used vpx powershock in my last contest prep and loved it.. never lost muscle.. it was my dedicated intra-workout.. now I prefer no-synthesize by them.

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