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    BCAAs


    who take them? notice better results? I'm trying to increase protein synthesis and want to know if I can get what the pills have to offer through easy nutrition...

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    I pop powerchews usually pwo, and often in between meals when a little sweet tooth urge arises
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    8:1:1 ratio if you want to activate mTOR to the max. mTOR = protein synthesis
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    I take none, waste of frikken money. If you consume protein shakes they have BCAA's in them, and between that and food it should be all you need. I dont even waste my money on this crap anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster
    8:1:1 ratio if you want to activate mTOR to the max. mTOR = protein synthesis
    This! +1
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    Why is the 8:1:1 ratio better then a 2:1:1 or 4:1:1? I thought there needed to be a balance between the three bcaas?
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    Bcaa's are Godsend for musclegrowth. 5 grams equal about 20 grams protein ONLY you only have the aminos that stimulate muscle growth and takes the other aminos out-which add more calories.

    I take them and have noticed nice results since I first started taking them. There is a lot of science behind them. My favorite is recoverpro- amazing taste and low price best bang for the buck on the BCAA market- my fav flavor is probably lemon

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    Can you explain why a 4:1:1 is better then the 2:1:1? I never got the differences lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Can you explain why a 4:1:1 is better then the 2:1:1? I never got the differences lol.
    I dont know. Now that luecine is the popular bcaa since about 2007- thats probally why. All I know it works and tastes fantasicand thats what matters to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoorsLight126 View Post
    I take none, waste of frikken money. If you consume protein shakes they have BCAA's in them, and between that and food it should be all you need. I dont even waste my money on this crap anymore
    This. I've taken several on varying diets (low carb, maintenance, lean bulk, etc.) and also followed the same diet/workout without taking BCAAs and they haven't made the slightest bit of difference in helping me reach my goals.
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    More Leucine=Opening mTOR=More protein synthesis. You probably wont see over night results, heck I know you wont. But over time BCAA;s will help muscle growth, metabolism, and much more. Should be a staple in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Why is the 8:1:1 ratio better then a 2:1:1 or 4:1:1? I thought there needed to be a balance between the three bcaas?
    Leucine is the star for protein synthesis, but the others are required to be present for all of leucines effects to take place.

    You cant take just leucine and get full benefits from it. The others need to be present at least at saturation levels. Some people might be getting enough from diet, but there is no way to really know.

    So its best just to roll with 8:1:1. It is what you want if you want muscle. 2:1:1 and 4:1:1 are good for anti-catabolic purposes IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Leucine is the star for protein synthesis, but the others are required to be present for all of leucines effects to take place.

    You cant take just leucine and get full benefits from it. The others need to be present at least at saturation levels. Some people might be getting enough from diet, but there is no way to really know.

    So its best just to roll with 8:1:1. It is what you want if you want muscle. 2:1:1 and 4:1:1 are good for anti-catabolic purposes IMO
    Thank you for ending the reign of broscience lol. Although I'm gonna have to lean towards a lower ratio for fasted individuals. Leucine alone is perfectly fine for the majority of individuals here, who have a high meal frequency. For low meal frequency or fasting, 2:1:1 or 4:1:1.

    The key is simply 0.045gleu/kg bw 2 hours or more postprandially.
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    For every two molecules of leucine metabolized, a molecule each of isoleucine and valine is required. This is why the original ratio has always been 2:1:1. If you take leucine alone you can deplete concentrations of the other two BCAA from the amino acid pool.
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    hmm, thanks guys. I guess since im bulking and eating 4-5 meals a day ill just go with a 4:1:1 or 8:1:1 product
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    best 4:1:1 product?
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    recoverypro for 4:1:1, usp modernbcaa for 8:1:1
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    I use them and find them effective, particularly in a caloric deficit.
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    I've tried all different ratio's.. I 've never noticed a difference so I stick with xtend.

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    Well i guess ill give 8:1:1 a run, then 4:1:1 since im a long time xtend user.
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    I like using RecoverPRO(4:1:1) during the day and post workout. I'll use Formula-X(8:1:1) pre-workout
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    I just use bulk. So much cheaper than the rest
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I just use bulk. So much cheaper than the rest
    eh I hate the taste of bulk, I enjoy the lemonade RecoverPro, tastes awesome!
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    I know some that skip protein shakes and just do BCAA and EAAs. However, if your aim is to ramp up mTOR activation and increase protein synthesis, you want BCAA and protein, whether it is a shake or increased protein-rich whole foods in your diet. One to essentially drive the process and the other to fuel it. It really depends on what your goals are, but I find BCAAs help cutting, bulking, or recomping.
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    I take extend , I lose fat build muscle good stuff
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    BCAA powerchews are a great way to get in some BCAA in between meals. I use them every day along with xtend pre and post workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    eh I hate the taste of bulk, I enjoy the lemonade RecoverPro, tastes awesome!
    with with the ajipure bcaa's you can barely even taste them in water. That is what I usually stick too since they dissolve well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    hmm, thanks guys. I guess since im bulking and eating 4-5 meals a day ill just go with a 4:1:1 or 8:1:1 product
    8:1:1, go with Modern BCAA, I live by this stuff when I'm on a cut....mixability and taste are pretty decent as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwulbrecht72 View Post
    8:1:1, go with Modern BCAA, I live by this stuff when I'm on a cut....mixability and taste are pretty decent as well
    Really? I hated the mixability and taste lol. Stuff wouldnt mix even when I left it overnight.

    Best BCAAs IMO are:

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    -New Xtend
    -Dymatize Recoup
    -RecoverPro

    If you want to bump up the 2:1:1 ratios, just throw in 1 scoop of SNS Leucine (5g).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Thank you for ending the reign of broscience lol. Although I'm gonna have to lean towards a lower ratio for fasted individuals. Leucine alone is perfectly fine for the majority of individuals here, who have a high meal frequency. For low meal frequency or fasting, 2:1:1 or 4:1:1.

    The key is simply 0.045gleu/kg bw 2 hours or more postprandially.
    Yup. Also most guys here are taking a protein shake I am guessing...which likely has BCAAs in them and would likely get you at saturation. Unless you are drinking some crappy soy protein or something
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    8:1:1 here
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    I like using RecoverPRO(4:1:1) during the day and post workout. I'll use Formula-X(8:1:1) pre-workout
    ...and just when does said FormulaX drop, JD? Hmmmmm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Really? I hated the mixability and taste lol. Stuff wouldnt mix even when I left it overnight.

    Best BCAAs IMO are:

    -Core ABC
    -New Xtend
    -Dymatize Recoup
    -RecoverPro

    If you want to bump up the 2:1:1 ratios, just throw in 1 scoop of SNS Leucine (5g).
    I had the same mixability problem with MBCAA's. I thought taste was decent though. I like your list but would also add Axis Labs N'Gage, one of the best tasting ones I've tried but a bit pricey.
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    I love xtend, idk bout the new one tho, im hereing mixed things. anyone tried it? Mbcaa for me mixes fine. Recoverpro tastes great but doenst mix well. Ibcaa is my fav ever but wont be in stock for 2 more weeks
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    RecoverPro Lemon 4-1-1 Ratio AI Sports Nutrition. I take 2 scoops before lifting. Currently using the Lean Gains Protocol 16hrs fast/8hrs fed. Tastes excellent (crystal lite lemonade) and very soluable compared to other BCAA formulas.
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    why didnt my recoverpro mix as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321
    why didnt my recoverpro mix as well?
    Hmmm. I use the AI shaker with the wire ball inside, breaks the powder down nicely. It also came with a bunch of AI freebies packed with it...score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    why didnt my recoverpro mix as well?
    I find it works best if I use at least 8 oz of water for each scoop or RP and also letting it sit for a several minutes really helps alot too.
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    Also using IF, á la Warrior diet.. And I drink alot of BCAAs and EAAs.. AXcell Artic Berry is one of the best tasting BCAA I've tried.. Can't beat the picture up @ AX Facebook, Poring down a BCAA Slush on a hot summer day after mowing the lawn

    I usually use it pre- and intra-, since it isn't just another BCAA, but it also contains Citrulline Malate, Taurine, Vitamin B6 which boosts my stamina and the intensity alot...!
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