Anyone feel slightly shut down from Anabeta?

Page 1 of 2 12 Last
  1. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0

    Anyone feel slightly shut down from Anabeta?


    Just got down running a 4 1/2 week cycle of Anabeta at around 4 caps a day stopped short was going to bridge it until my next cycle. Pumps were great, strength seemed to go up slightly while my weight dropped from around 215 to about 209. Leaned out nicely.

    The last few weeks I started feeling a bit shutdown in the sense.. no morning wood, not really in the mood. Testes dont seem to be atrophied (I know its just a broscience way of judging it) but they do seem smaller then when i completed my last pct with torem (like ping pong balls)

    I got bloods done after my last cycle and test was approx. (260, 150-800 scale). I did a full pct. I then took 6 weeks off after my PCT before even starting Anabeta. I felt recovered after my last cycle testes were huge and i was a horny bastard up until about 2-3 weeks ago. Im getting bloods in 11 hours from now to see whats going on.

    My question is has anyone else felt this way on Anabeta? I know everyones different and maybe its just effecting me this way or its something else all together. Thanks

  2. Registered User
    swollen87's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,766
    Answers
    0


    i highly doubt anabeta is supressive at all....... i even heard it gives a nice libido boost

    were your test levels 260 before pct? or after u finished off the torem?

    what exactly was your last pct? did it include atd?


    interested in the results of your test, but honestly it sounds to me like your hypogonadal because of the steroids you took... not the anabeta
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
  3. Registered User
    kevinhy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    3,091
    Answers
    0


    As swollen asked, was the 260 level right after coming off the androgens or after you finished your PCT?

    There are tons of people running AnaBeta, and this is the first mention ive heard of suppression. My colleagues and I have been taking 6caps a day without adverse effect, and we're familiar with typical shutdown symptoms. I'm curious to see what the next set of labs has to say.
    PES - PM me anytime for any questions
    "Like" us on Facebook
    Subscribe to the PES Newsletter for all Specials and Announcements
    •   
       

  4. Registered User
    mattrag's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Age
    29
    Posts
    10,027
    Answers
    0


    I am using it in PCT and I am feeling better since adding it yesterday (was a late add, 3 days into PCT, on day 5 of PCT, day 2 of AnaBeta)

    Would like to see if anyone else feels this way.. I honestly feel MUCH better since adding it.
    RecoverBro ELITE
  5. Registered User
    dcne02's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    218
    Answers
    0


    I just finished 4 weeks of Anebeta as well and no negative sides. I do feel like I lost a little size that I added while on Anabeta. I guess its because I'm not eating as much.
  6. Banned
    Cocaine4PWO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    174
    Answers
    0


    are you stressed/depressed ??
  7. PESCIENCE.com
    Board Sponsor
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,132
    Answers
    7


    260 after a full PCT? No bueno...you need to re-evaluate your next PCT and/or where you are purchasing your research chemicals. Typically post PCT levels in that reference range I have seen are in the 600's from the ancillaries alone. Often guys T levels are higher post PCT than they are before they started a cycle, but is usually from the ancillaries they were using and it levels off after.

    As for AnaBeta though, AnaBeta would increase ones testosterone levels. It is an additional effect
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  8. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    260 ish was after my CYCLE. I then ran a full pct which included torem, HCGenerate, erase. Felt great after. Research Products were from a board sponser.

    I am slightly stressed due to breaking to w my girl of 3 years . So it could just b that. I did lots of searching and saw nothing about anabeta being suppressive but I just thought I'd ask anyways. Going in for bloods now.
  9. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    flightposite's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    2,945
    Answers
    0


    I've been on anabeta for four weeks now and haven't noticed any signs of suppression. Actually the opposite for at least the first two weeks I was horny as heck on it now it's kinda leveled off. Ps natty If it being a test booster is a side effect I don't want to know it's main purpose lol. all seriousness though natty the secondary affect of it being a t booster is better than most straight up t boosters I've used. Big ups on anabeta
  10. Registered User
    GQNemesis's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    2,972
    Answers
    0


    When will u get the results ?
  11. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Bloods done. Maybe tonight if I'm lucky but no later then tomorrow.
  12. PESCIENCE.com
    Board Sponsor
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,132
    Answers
    7


    Thats some super fast blood service. What lab? I need to use them from now on
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  13. Registered User
    andrew732's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    5,429
    Answers
    0


    I would definitely reconsider where you are buying your research chemicals and also you may just have endocrine problems, if that is the case you may want to visit an endocrinologist.
    doing my own thang!
  14. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Thats some super fast blood service. What lab? I need to use them from now on
    Privatemdlabs always are quick for me.

    I would definitely reconsider where you are buying your research chemicals and also you may just have endocrine problems, if that is the case you may want to visit an endocrinologist.
    Ive always got them from rui always thought they were legit. Yeah could be or im just stressed out, hopefully the bloods will shed some light. I kinda doubt my test is super low though just because Ive been gaining strength in the gym and maintaining muscle. Hmmmmmm
  15. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Heres a few progress pics of my continued summer recomp. 1st one is like 6 weeks after the completion of my last pct



    These two pics are from a few days ago after four weeks of Anabeta, more clean diet, and of course hard training and cardio. Weight is down to 209.



  16. Registered User
    swollen87's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,766
    Answers
    0


    id get some good pharma clomid, and shoot for a restart... what was your last cycle?

    if your test level was 260 AFTER pct there is something very wrong
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
  17. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    id get some good pharma clomid, and shoot for a restart... what was your last cycle?

    if your test level was 260 AFTER pct there is something very wrong
    My test was 260 after my CYCLE..... I then did a full PCT. No bloods were done after the PCT, because i felt great and boys were like ping pong balls so i thought i was g2g.
  18. Registered User
    swollen87's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,766
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Lightweight1 View Post
    My test was 260 after my CYCLE..... I then did a full PCT. No bloods were done after the PCT, because i felt great and boys were like ping pong balls so i thought i was g2g.
    OOOOHHHH my bad... must have read that wrong...


    260 after a cycle isnt bad... what did you run?
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
  19. Registered User
    seccsi's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Age
    30
    Posts
    679
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    260 after a full PCT? No bueno...you need to re-evaluate your next PCT and/or where you are purchasing your research chemicals. Typically post PCT levels in that reference range I have seen are in the 600's from the ancillaries alone. Often guys T levels are higher post PCT than they are before they started a cycle, but is usually from the ancillaries they were using and it levels off after.

    As for AnaBeta though, AnaBeta would increase ones testosterone levels. It is an additional effect
    ? I thought you've always said Anabeta doesn't increase testosterone and works via a different mechanism? Or did I miss something? Any chance I can see the study that shows Anabeta increasing T?
  20. Registered User
    swollen87's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,766
    Answers
    0


    [QUOTE=Lightweight1;2950805]260 ish was after my pct. I then ran a full pct which included torem, HCGenerate, erase. Felt great after..[/QUOTE

    this is why i was mistaken


    .. breaking up with your girl of 3 years will surely be a low blow to your test levels...

    depression/being lonely/drinking/poor sleep/stress (idk if you drink, but people ususally do after a breakup)
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html
  21. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    OOOOHHHH my bad... must have read that wrong...


    260 after a cycle isnt bad... what did you run?
    Its ok I think someone above assumed that and then everyone thought it was 260 after my pct and not my actual cycle. My cycle was a 6 week of Osta (bottle said osta) got bloods done was suppressed and did a full pct.
  22. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    [QUOTE=swollen87;2951290]
    Quote Originally Posted by Lightweight1 View Post
    260 ish was after my pct. I then ran a full pct which included torem, HCGenerate, erase. Felt great after..[/QUOTE

    this is why i was mistaken


    .. breaking up with your girl of 3 years will surely be a low blow to your test levels...

    depression/being lonely/drinking/poor sleep/stress (idk if you drink, but people ususally do after a breakup)
    Ok my bad i will edit that. Its a mistake. Yeah the above factors sound like me recently but not an excessive amount of drinking but more then i usually do which is very little to none.
  23. PESCIENCE.com
    Board Sponsor
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,132
    Answers
    7


    Great progress lightweight!
  24. Registered User
    seccsi's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Age
    30
    Posts
    679
    Answers
    0


    Can you address my question on page 1 natty? Thanks!
  25. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Great progress lightweight!
    Thanks my man!
  26. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Ok im guessing im just stressed/depressed etc. But i havent seen a lot of bloods after anabeta so this is still an informative thread. I posted the bottom half of my bloods all others were in good ranges:


    Bun 22 high 6-20
    Bun/Creatinine Ratio 19 8-19
    Bilirubin, Total 2.1 High 0.0-1.2
    AST(SGOT) 49 High 0-40
    ALT (SGPT) 39 0-55

    Cholesterol, Total 121 100-199
    Triglycerides 98 0-149
    HDL Cholesterol 32 Low >39
    VLDL Cholesterol Cal 20 5-40
    LDL Cholesterol Calc 69 0-99

    Testosterone Serum 554 249-836
    LH 3.4 1.7-8.6
    FSH, Serum 5.9 1.5-12.4
    Estradiol 24.3 7.6-42.6
  27. T50
    T50 is offline
    Registered User
    T50's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    869
    Answers
    0


    So your pre-AnaBeta levels of test were 260 and post-AnaBeta levels were 554? Am I reading that right?
    Cutting all summer, cycle in September
  28. Registered User
    kevinhy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    3,091
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by T50 View Post
    So your pre-AnaBeta levels of test were 260 and post-AnaBeta levels were 554? Am I reading that right?
    Pre PCT levels were 260. Im pretty sure OP used AnaBeta in PCT and stil felt shut down afterwards, mostly due to stress factors.
  29. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by T50 View Post
    So your pre-AnaBeta levels of test were 260 and post-AnaBeta levels were 554? Am I reading that right?
    Pre PCT levels were 260. Im pretty sure OP used AnaBeta in PCT and stil felt shut down afterwards, mostly due to stress factors.
    Post Cycle test was 260... Then i ran a PCT, no bloods were taken after but i felt great like i was recovered. I then was feeling shut down after 4 weeks on Anabeta but I think it is obviously stress related due to my test being in mid 500's now.
  30. T50
    T50 is offline
    Registered User
    T50's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    869
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Lightweight1 View Post
    Post Cycle test was 260... Then i ran a PCT, no bloods were taken after but i felt great like i was recovered. I then was feeling shut down after 4 weeks on Anabeta but I think it is obviously stress related due to my test being in mid 500's now.
    OO i see, misread. When you said Post Cycle I thought Post PCT for some reason, my bad. and yea man, stress can do it to you.
    Cutting all summer, cycle in September
  31. PESCIENCE.com
    Board Sponsor
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,132
    Answers
    7


    Quote Originally Posted by seccsi View Post
    ? I thought you've always said Anabeta doesn't increase testosterone and works via a different mechanism? Or did I miss something? Any chance I can see the study that shows Anabeta increasing T?
    Its MoA is not through testosterone increase. It may increase testosterone additionally, yes.

    Its all in the writeup: http://pescience.com/products/anabeta/ and the references. It does not say it work for word, it has to be interpreted
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  32. PESCIENCE.com
    Board Sponsor
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,132
    Answers
    7


    Lightweight - I am jealous of your HDL.

    Which leads me to ask, did you use any orals on cycle? Very good lipid panel
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  33. Registered User
    Lightweight1's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  225 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    579
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Lightweight - I am jealous of your HDL.Which leads me to ask, did you use any orals on cycle? Very good lipid panel
    Yeah thanks my HDL is better but still low. I can't get it above 39. Yeah I worked hard to get my lipids there so I can trash them w my next cycle. No oral ph's or aas on last cycle just oral osta which shut me down for some reason.
  34. PESCIENCE.com
    Board Sponsor
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,132
    Answers
    7


    Low HDL is good - keep it low!

    You want low LDL and high HDL
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  35. Registered User
    Max32's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  270 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    34
    Posts
    1,063
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Low HDL is good - keep it low!

    You want low LDL and high HDL
    I got mine from a 21 to 54 in 12 weeks on the stack below (total chelesterol 108, LDL lower than HDL

    sesamin
    slo-niacin
    iforce heart help
    red yeast rice
  36. Registered User
    saggy321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    1,351
    Answers
    0


    Don't under-estimate the effects of stress, which when combined with training, a stressor in itself can be pretty tough on the body. A few months ago my cortisol and testosterone ratio was completely out of whack and I couldn't even get an erection, seriously. Might be worth trying some phophotidyle serine and horny goat weed or something similar to bring the hormone ratio back into line. The cortisol connection website helped me massively.
  37. Registered User
    BPjohn123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Age
    30
    Posts
    6,952
    Answers
    0


    NIce results lightweight
    PES REPRESENTATIVE
    pescience.com
    http://pescience.com/insider
  38. PESCIENCE.com
    Board Sponsor
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,132
    Answers
    7


    Quote Originally Posted by Max32 View Post
    I got mine from a 21 to 54 in 12 weeks on the stack below (total chelesterol 108, LDL lower than HDL

    sesamin
    slo-niacin
    iforce heart help
    red yeast rice
    How much slo-ni?
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  39. Registered User
    Max32's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  270 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    34
    Posts
    1,063
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    How much slo-ni?
    750 mg bud
  40. Registered User
    uubiduu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    733
    Answers
    1


    what is slo-niacin?
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. ATTN: Users of PES AnaBeta and those interested in AnaBeta
    By nattydisaster in forum Supplements
    Replies: 637
    Last Post: 01-24-2012, 04:41 AM
  2. slightly odd post injection
    By glenihan in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 05-04-2005, 10:34 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in