M.T.s Neurocore has 10x the dose of 1,3Dimethyl

  1. Professional Member
    Jasen's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  245 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    4,048
    Rep Power
    6864
    Level
    44
    Lv. Percent
    22.72%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    M.T.s Neurocore has 10x the dose of 1,3Dimethyl


    Had anyone seen this, its crazy almost 600mg isn't 60mg the to dose recommended?

  2. Senior Member
    MakaveliThaDon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    2,781
    Rep Power
    5917
    Level
    37
    Lv. Percent
    88.57%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    do you have a pic of the label? Maybe the labeling is wording it differently and listing a percentage of the actual extract afterwards. for instance 600mg of xxxx standardized to 10% of 1,3dimethyl. That would equal 60mg.

    Of course labeling it the previous way makes it look ridiculously powerful
  3. Diamond Member
    thebigt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    27,923
    Rep Power
    10751484
    Level
    116
    Lv. Percent
    9.9%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProActivity VeteranActivity RoyaltyActivity GodPosting ProPosting Authority

    remember, there is nothing that says they have to be truthful on the label....it all depends on how much you trust muscletech....


    dat der cell tech, lol.
    BPS REP-DERMACRINE/ENDOSURGE....COMBUSTION/DCP 2.0
    •   
       

  4. Professional Member
    Jasen's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  245 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    4,048
    Rep Power
    6864
    Level
    44
    Lv. Percent
    22.72%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Another question is could I take this during morning cardio with OEP and then.again later P.W. With jacked? I was thinking 2pills a day. One pill is 340mg extract ( 10.2mg rosavins). It is only thing missing in jacked so I manually wanted to add this.I
    ~ IRON LIVER™________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]
  5. Senior Member
    carpee's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Age
    27
    Posts
    2,608
    Rep Power
    83751
    Level
    38
    Lv. Percent
    57.7%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Another question is could I take this during morning cardio with OEP and then.again later P.W. With jacked? I was thinking 2pills a day. One pill is 340mg extract ( 10.2mg rosavins). It is only thing missing in jacked so I manually wanted to add this.I
    I wouldn't add any extra 1,3 dimeth to OEP or jacked


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  6. New Member
    BaDgErFaN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    426
    Rep Power
    795
    Level
    17
    Lv. Percent
    56.86%

    Heres the label:

    Serving Size 1 Rounded scoop (3 scoop max dose)
    Servings Per Container 50
    Amount Per Serving % DV
    Neurocore™ Complex (per 3 scoop dose) 10216.00 mg **
    Beta-Alanine 3200.00 mg **
    L-Citrulline 3000.00 mg **
    Creatine HCl 3000.00 mg **
    Geranium extract (as Geranium robertianum) (aerial parts) 531.00 mg **
    Caffeine Anhydrous 330.00 mg **
    Rhodiola extract (as Rhodiola rosea) (root) 100.00 mg **
    Deanol bitartrate (supplying DMAE) 50.00 mg **
    Vinpocetine 5.00 mg **
    ** Daily Value (DV) not established



    edit: Sorry for the size of this, cant get it smaller
  7. Professional Member
    Jasen's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  245 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    4,048
    Rep Power
    6864
    Level
    44
    Lv. Percent
    22.72%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Ohhhh I.meat to say can I add rhodiola! Lmfao!!Can I add rhodiola extract two operate doses.
    ~ IRON LIVER™________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]
  8. Professional Member
    Jasen's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  245 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    4,048
    Rep Power
    6864
    Level
    44
    Lv. Percent
    22.72%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    One to my morning dose of oep the other to my afternoon dose of jacked
    ~ IRON LIVER™________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]
  9. Diamond Member
    mr.cooper69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    10,526
    Rep Power
    6118949
    Level
    96
    Lv. Percent
    70.57%
    Achievements Activity ProActivity AuthorityActivity VeteranActivity RoyaltyPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    You guys realize their extract is geranium robertianum and not geranium oil/1,3 dimethylamylamine, correct?
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
  10. Senior Member
    kingdong's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  240 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    2,849
    Rep Power
    8206
    Level
    39
    Lv. Percent
    0.06%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    So dose their geranium do anything?
  11. Diamond Member
    thebigt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    27,923
    Rep Power
    10751484
    Level
    116
    Lv. Percent
    9.9%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProActivity VeteranActivity RoyaltyActivity GodPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You guys realize their extract is geranium robertianum and not geranium oil/1,3 dimethylamylamine, correct?


    lol-good old muscletech...
    BPS REP-DERMACRINE/ENDOSURGE....COMBUSTION/DCP 2.0
  12. oli
    Advanced Member
    oli's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  197 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Age
    35
    Posts
    701
    Rep Power
    13121
    Level
    21
    Lv. Percent
    56.23%

    def. not into high caffeine products
  13. Diamond Member
    mr.cooper69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    10,526
    Rep Power
    6118949
    Level
    96
    Lv. Percent
    70.57%
    Achievements Activity ProActivity AuthorityActivity VeteranActivity RoyaltyPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelbolic View Post
    Hmmm, the originial Hydroxystim also listed geranium robertanium as one of its ingredients and according to this analysis it did contain DMAA:


    Also WTF at the DMAA dose in Jack3d and Flashover (which is mislabeled according to this analysis)

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22786761

    I guess MT dropped the DMAA in later geranium robertanium formulations, because it felt nothing like other DMAA containing supplements.
    Wow, that chart alone is loaded with inaccuracies. Aside from what you mentioned, I don't think Muscletech has ever stated that Geranium robertianum is 100% DMAA, which would throw off the "stated DMAA per serving." Just how much can we trust this source if the authors appear to be poorly versed and negligent with respect to the data?
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
  14. Diamond Member
    mr.cooper69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    10,526
    Rep Power
    6118949
    Level
    96
    Lv. Percent
    70.57%
    Achievements Activity ProActivity AuthorityActivity VeteranActivity RoyaltyPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelbolic View Post
    What's innacurate about that chart?

    Regarding the Hydroxystim DMAA claims, I think there are two possibilities:

    1. The authors 'misinterpreted' Hydroxystim's label.
    2. In the authors' defense, they also found that DMAA used in these supplements is 1. from synthetic origin and 2. DMAA is not naturally occuring in commercially available geranium oil/extracts (although they didn't test geranium robertanium to my knowledge). These findings directly imply it's impossible for any supplement company to claim they use a natural DMAA source (4 companies in this chart claim they did use a natural DMAA source). Still, many companies mislabel(ed) synthetic DMAA as geranium oil/stem/extract.

    Whatever it is, I don't believe it alters the main conclusions of this paper.

    It does make me wonder why the acute USPLabs DMAA safety study* only used up to 75 mg DMAA, while this analysis shows that Jack3d contains 142 mg DMAA per serving. Unless they changed the formula or this analysis is a fraud this is a very misleading move.

    * https://physsportsmed.org/doi/10.3810/psm.2011.09.1927
    The chart lists incorrect doses of DMAA for jack3d and flashover. Further, flashover's label is non-proprietary and it does not state "20mg" DMAA per serving.
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Neurocore by Muscletech
    By Presa in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 07-03-2011, 10:36 PM
  2. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 07-03-2011, 05:06 AM
  3. Has anyone ran a low dose, 25mg, dose of H-drol?
    By nattydisaster in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 05-15-2011, 08:19 PM
  4. short low dose mdrol vs long high dose pplex cycle
    By bigzach1234 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 10-30-2009, 02:25 AM
  5. Low dose vs. high dose
    By DmitryWI in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 11-18-2004, 05:36 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in