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    is my phenibut bunk?


    got some capsules phenibut from NP ...

    when i opened the caps... they are very smooth powder like.. not like sugar like some described...

    it is also not very soluble in water.... it does taste sour though..

    last i took 1g of that thing...and i felt nothing...


    is this bad batch?

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    It's not a bad batch. Not a strong batch though. Believe me, I've ordered many a container from NP. The fine grain-stuff isn't like what they used to sell.
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    there should be very little doubt when using Phenibut,it is pretty potent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceGuided View Post
    there should be very little doubt when using Phenibut,it is pretty potent.
    This.

    Also this isn't the first time I've heard of this problem with that certain brand.
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    Which brand is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceGuided View Post
    there should be very little doubt when using Phenibut,it is pretty potent.
    you said it for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceGuided View Post
    there should be very little doubt when using Phenibut,it is pretty potent.
    Exactly what I was going to post. I have only had our brand(so that is really all I can comment on) and I am loving Phenibut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
    Exactly what I was going to post. I have only had our brand(so that is really all I can comment on) and I am loving Phenibut.
    I have used several other brands and even other products with phenibut and other things.

    I can honestly say SNS phenibut is superior to everything out there,try once and you will see.
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    I picked up some Primaforce phenibut, so I'll be curious to see how it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    I picked up some Primaforce phenibut, so I'll be curious to see how it is.
    Sweet! Phenibut is cool stuff. Let us all know how it goes.
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    Yeah, you should definitely feel 1g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by underthesun View Post
    Yeah, you should definitely feel 1g.
    i need to take upwards of 4-6g to have any effect.... day 1 first time trying it i had to take 2g to feel ANYTHING
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    i need to take upwards of 4-6g to have any effect.... day 1 first time trying it i had to take 2g to feel ANYTHING
    Took the words right out of my mouth. I wish still experienced the effects I did when I first started using it. Many moons ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    i need to take upwards of 4-6g to have any effect.... day 1 first time trying it i had to take 2g to feel ANYTHING
    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    Took the words right out of my mouth. I wish still experienced the effects I did when I first started using it. Many moons ago.
    There's no way you guys should be needing to dose it that high. Have you guys been using it regularly (ie. everyday), or once every couple days as usually recommended?

    Phenibut is extremely potent, and shouldn't need to be dosed past 1g. I've been using it every couple of days for a few years and I still don't go past 1g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    There's no way you guys should be needing to dose it that high. Have you guys been using it regularly (ie. everyday), or once every couple days as usually recommended?

    Phenibut is extremely potent, and shouldn't need to be dosed past 1g. I've been using it every couple of days for a few years and I still don't go past 1g.
    could not agree more,although a few "bigger" folks might flirt with 1.5-2 grams once in a blue moon

    all kidding aside,even 500-1000mg has a pronounced effect on me.

    im not sure I even want to think what 4 grams would be like =/

    really can't take for then 2-3 times a week(at most!) or else you really run the risk of building up a serious tolerance.

    I started to build up a tolerance and took many,many months off before even taking so much as 500mg and seemed to work pretty good.
    so I lucked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero View Post
    There's no way you guys should be needing to dose it that high. Have you guys been using it regularly (ie. everyday), or once every couple days as usually recommended?

    Phenibut is extremely potent, and shouldn't need to be dosed past 1g. I've been using it every couple of days for a few years and I still don't go past 1g.

    no, i dont take it regularly at all... never more than 3x a week...

    its potent sure, but i never felt anything @ 1 g..... and i dont drink/do other drugs so my gaba receptors arent like shot out or anything

    maybe im just born with a tolerance to phenibut.... 4-6 g seems to be the spot where i feel it, but not to a degree of euphoria or sedation.... i just get anti-anxiety effects and deep sleep from it..


    im also about 205lbs... not sure if that has anythng to do with it...

    im also a drug addict in recovery ... maybe that might have something to do with it?



    also, its possible nutras stuff isnt as potent as sns..... wanna send me a bottle and ill log it/post a review?
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    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    no, i dont take it regularly at all... never more than 3x a week...

    its potent sure, but i never felt anything @ 1 g..... and i dont drink/do other drugs so my gaba receptors arent like shot out or anything

    maybe im just born with a tolerance to phenibut.... 4-6 g seems to be the spot where i feel it, but not to a degree of euphoria or sedation.... i just get anti-anxiety effects and deep sleep from it..


    im also about 205lbs... not sure if that has anythng to do with it...

    im also a drug addict in recovery ... maybe that might have something to do with it?



    also, its possible nutras stuff isnt as potent as sns..... wanna send me a bottle and ill log it/post a review?
    The two bolded parts of your last post seem conflicting. Could you clarify exactly what you mean?

    Obviously, I cannot vouch for the quality of NP stuff, but I would NEVER recommend dosing of 4-6g to anyone at any weight. I don't have any extra phenibut laying around, but as soon as I get a new bottle (in a few weeks) I will gladly send you a couple 2 cap (1g) servings to try out. You should be able to gauge the difference from that.
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    Im guessing he was a drug addict but he stopped completely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocaine4PWO View Post
    Im guessing he was a drug addict but he stopped completely?
    That's kind of what I'm thinking, but the drug of choice, duration and quantity of use, as well as time clean can all impact performance of supplements such as phenibut.
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    Judging by his avatar I feel it was the good ol cocaine/alcohol combo friday thru sundays all throughout late teen/early adult hood years


    nah just playing, good stuff on staying clean big dawg
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    phenibut can actually help with withdrawal symptoms from many narcotics.

    I am a lot bigger then 205 and 500-1000mg works plenty fine for me.


    all about the quality,and the quality is unmatched with SNS phenibut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocaine4PWO View Post
    Judging by his avatar I feel it was the good ol cocaine/alcohol combo friday thru sundays all throughout late teen/early adult hood years


    nah just playing, good stuff on staying clean big dawg
    LMAOOO I SERIOUSLY laughed out loud...


    @anti-hero

    i was a casual drug user (weed,coke sometimes the occasional painkiller) until i was 20- then my mom passed away from pancreatic cancer and i turned to the bottle/xanax/percs/dope ect ect (basically whatever was there)

    after her death i accumulated 5 felony arrests within a 90 day period as a direct result of my drug/alcohol abuse


    its been 2 years since ive had a drink or a drug.... but the last drug i used was xanax.... and i was using 7-10mg every day... this might be why i need so much damn phenibut... but one would think my receptors should be clean or down regulated because its been so damn long

    send me a few servings and ill let you know the difference, from all this talk here, it seems sns's phenibut is second to none... aka, nobody comes close............ i would be interesed in trying some.. (but send me at least 3-4g just in case!!)

    i wouldnt be opposed to writing a full review to vouch sns;s phenibuts effectiveness vs primaforce&nutras
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    LMAOOO I SERIOUSLY laughed out loud...


    @anti-hero

    i was a casual drug user (weed,coke sometimes the occasional painkiller) until i was 20- then my mom passed away from pancreatic cancer and i turned to the bottle/xanax/percs/dope ect ect (basically whatever was there)

    after her death i accumulated 5 felony arrests within a 90 day period as a direct result of my drug/alcohol abuse


    its been 2 years since ive had a drink or a drug.... but the last drug i used was xanax.... and i was using 7-10mg every day... this might be why i need so much damn phenibut... but one would think my receptors should be clean or down regulated because its been so damn long

    send me a few servings and ill let you know the difference, from all this talk here, it seems sns's phenibut is second to none... aka, nobody comes close............ i would be interesed in trying some.. (but send me at least 3-4g just in case!!)

    i wouldnt be opposed to writing a full review to vouch sns;s phenibuts effectiveness vs primaforce&nutras
    That would be a good look for SNS if indeed there product ism ore potent than the rest.
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    Next time try the SNS phenibut and compare the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Next time try the SNS phenibut and compare the two.
    SNS dont have samples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    What seperates SNS phenibut specifically from others... interested in buying...
    The price per serving blows every other companys caps I've seen out of the water. And our quality is always top notch.

    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    @anti-hero

    i was a casual drug user (weed,coke sometimes the occasional painkiller) until i was 20- then my mom passed away from pancreatic cancer and i turned to the bottle/xanax/percs/dope ect ect (basically whatever was there)

    after her death i accumulated 5 felony arrests within a 90 day period as a direct result of my drug/alcohol abuse


    its been 2 years since ive had a drink or a drug.... but the last drug i used was xanax.... and i was using 7-10mg every day... this might be why i need so much damn phenibut... but one would think my receptors should be clean or down regulated because its been so damn long

    send me a few servings and ill let you know the difference, from all this talk here, it seems sns's phenibut is second to none... aka, nobody comes close............ i would be interesed in trying some.. (but send me at least 3-4g just in case!!)

    i wouldnt be opposed to writing a full review to vouch sns;s phenibuts effectiveness vs primaforce&nutras
    That may negatively impact the effectiveness of the ingredient, but I will link this thread to Synapsin, as he will be much more apt to giving you an in depth explanation on how/why this happened.

    I will gladly send you a baggie with some phenibut caps in it. I'll make sure it has enough to cover you for a little bit so you can play with the dosing if necessary. But like I mentioned before, I cannot condone dosing at 4-6g.

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    SNS dont have samples?
    Presently, there are no official samples available. However many of the reps, myself included, spend hundreds of dollars anually mailing out samples from our own stashes.
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    I understand, I mean if the dude would take your product and see a significant difference compared to other brands that would be a real nice look for your products.
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    Your history of drug use can lead to long lasting or permanent alterations in specific brain circuits linked to these drugs, but it should not affect your phenibut use. An example would be that individuals who chronically abused cocaine or amphetamine in the past undergo neuroimaging and the results indicate they have lowered density of receptors (d2 dopamine receptors for this example), and their remaining receptors also release less dopamine than before. If you are not regularly using phenibut and have not used drugs in 2 years as you say, you should not be experiencing tachyphylaxis unless you have long lasting damage. You should try another brand and see how that goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    Your history of drug use can lead to long lasting or permanent alterations in specific brain circuits linked to these drugs, but it should not affect your phenibut use. An example would be that individuals who chronically abused cocaine or amphetamine in the past undergo neuroimaging and the results indicate they have lowered density of receptors (d2 dopamine receptors for this example), and their remaining receptors also release less dopamine than before. If you are not regularly using phenibut and have not used drugs in 2 years as you say, you should not be experiencing tachyphylaxis unless you have long lasting damage. You should try another brand and see how that goes.
    im thinking it could just be that nutras phenibut isnt as strong as it once was (what im told)

    its very possible i have long lasting damage, i abused xanax, cocaine, and mdma along with alcohol on a daily basis..

    not to mention, i still take lots of 1,3dmaa if that has anyhting to do with it... i take about 50-75mg daily could that play a part?


    im going to wait on that sample pack from antihero

    from the research i had done, i had come to find out that there were 2 different kinds of phenibut

    i dont remmebr which one is what, but i do know one was said to be much more potent
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    It could be a combination of things. I'm sure a reason why I have to dose pheni higher is partly do to the fact that I smoked alot of pot, and when I had started using pheni, I was still smoking alot of pot. I dabble in my share of xanex. I'm sure my receptors will never be back to fresh, again.

    Today I tried PrimaForce Pheni. I'm pleased with it. I took my usual dose, about 2.7g upon waking, and another 2.7g 45min later. Overall I have a nice relaxed, calm, content feeling. My usual experience with pheni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocaine4PWO View Post
    SNS dont have samples?
    Ill see if I can get you some. Our phenibut is some of the best priced around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Ill see if I can get you some. Our phenibut is some of the best priced around.
    even if it wasn't it would still be worth the price lol

    just like SNS always does,it goes one step further and makes the price very nice!

    I agree,SNS phenibut is the best quality and some of the best priced around
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    What seperates SNS phenibut specifically from others... interested in buying...
    Best priced phenibut everrrr
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    From personal experience, I liked the SNS Phenibut more than Primaforce. I didn't expect there to be a difference, but there was.
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    If there phenibut is indeed better it has to do with better quality. Open the caps and look at the consistency. Is it crystallline. In that case its the quality. There is alot of **** phenibut going around that just makes you tired and not euphoric. The good stuff at doses of 1gram to 1-75 give some energy and anxiety relief. After about 10 hrs it might start making you a little tired. I may have to try sns now to see if they are the only ones that actually have the good phenibut. I've been taking this stuff on and off for 4 years. Trust me there def is quality issues its not you.
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    If there phenibut is indeed better it has to do with better quality. Open the caps and look at the consistency. Is it crystallline. In that case its the quality. There is alot of **** phenibut going around that just makes you tired and not euphoric. The good stuff at doses of 1gram to 1-75 give some energy and anxiety relief. After about 10 hrs it might start making you a little tired. I may have to try sns now to see if they are the only ones that actually have the good phenibut. I've been taking this stuff on and off for 4 years. Trust me there def is quality issues its not you.
    This is interesting to see and note. I'll have to check out some phenibut I have coming.
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    THe good phenibut is R-phenibut. I believe suppliers are sending s-phenibut for some reason. Not sure but only thing i can think of is to save money but maybe they are just stupid and don't realize they are making ****ty phenibut. The R is so much cleaner and doesn't make you so damn tired. It will make you tired if dosed high but not as much with the good quality.. I talked to smart powders and they claimed to have good quality. I wasn't impressed. The stuff made me feel like ****. If your going to vend Phenibut make sure you get the r quality because otherwise your customers won't be too happy unless they use it only to sleep in that case some people won't even know the difference.
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    I use SNS Pheni, 1 pill and I'm a happy social butterfly, 2 pills and I'm a sleep for the next 12 hrs. I love this stuff. To bad I cant be on it all the time.
  

  
 

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