High quality pre WO drink w/o creatine?
- 07-04-2011, 10:25 AM
- 07-04-2011, 11:41 AM
waxy maze works great for me without any crash post training . If adding 120 carbs to your diet in not a big problem , then you could possibly drink 1 before training , 1 during training and one following training with your whey isolate . I had to take this route , the stimulates ( caffeine ) does not work well for me .Hope this helps you on your journey
- 07-04-2011, 02:54 PM
Watermelon White Flood.
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07-04-2011, 04:58 PM
Focus XT or Watermelon White Flood
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
07-04-2011, 07:15 PM
07-05-2011, 02:44 AM
Lit Up. PM me for a sample. also try Drive for a non stim and RPM for a more of a stronger stim. Lit Up would still be my preference over the three options i have given.
07-05-2011, 10:03 AM
07-05-2011, 10:30 AM
Are you also going to cycle off beef and chicken? because they have plenty of creatine in them as well. There isn't any particular scientific rationale for cycling off creatine.
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07-05-2011, 11:24 AM
07-05-2011, 12:03 PM
I don't see any reason to have to cycle off of creatine, either. I'd definitely cycle off the stims, though. I went a looooong time without doing that and now I'm 6 weeks deep into a 12 week (minimum) break from stimulants just to try and reset my tolerance. I don't care if my pre-workout has creatine in it or not. If it does, then okay, and if not, I just pop my 5g mono with my post workout shake. Taking a break from caffeine and more importantly 1,3 dimeth is going to be far more important.
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07-05-2011, 12:49 PM
I agree with a few of the others.
SNS Focus XT or Watermelon White Flood.
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07-05-2011, 02:15 PM
i using WF watermelon right and have used focus xt before. cant go wrong w either
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07-05-2011, 04:36 PM
I'm not the brightest, but I don't see any reason to get off the creatine. Stims on the other hand are understandable. It sucks when you get hooked on one and find that your body/mind will not respond without it. I was that way with Jack3d and had to stay away from it for a couple of months. I'm back on it and loving it once again!!!
07-05-2011, 04:58 PM
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