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    wtf??
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    Nutra launched their sale at noon today I believe. Give them a call if there is any confusion
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtterrible View Post
    wtf??
    Probably just the default message they have for products that aren't in stock. Since this is a pre-sale their website probably just handles the product as being out of stock.
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    Good thinking....if it lets you check out then all should be good, right?
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    orbit sold out already..
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Good thinking....if it lets you check out then all should be good, right?
    I got the same message, I was able to check out. I am assuming the order will get shipped once they get the product in (6/27 or so). However, I hope they are keeping track of pre-orders and don't actually oversell what they are expecting to get from their first shipment of Anabeta.
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    They are aware of how many they are getting, so hopefully their computer is set up. I imagine it is...this isnt their first rodeo
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    Got my 2 bottles. Now just waiting for it to ship.
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    Bit the bullet and ordered anabeta X2 + 1 Alpha t2.

    My faith in PES is resting on the fact that Erase is the best supplement, (besides protein, vitamins, bcaa etc) for the money I have ever bought.

    I hope anabeta lives up to the rest of the PES lineup.
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    U going to stack AT2 and AnaBeta? WOuld love to hear the feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepaul7 View Post
    Bit the bullet and ordered anabeta X2 + 1 Alpha t2.

    My faith in PES is resting on the fact that Erase is the best supplement, (besides protein, vitamins, bcaa etc) for the money I have ever bought.

    I hope anabeta lives up to the rest of the PES lineup.
    AnaBeta most definitely "lives up to the rest of the PES lineup". In fact, it is THE product of the year to try, IMO! Trust me, you WON'T be disappointed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    U going to stack AT2 and AnaBeta? WOuld love to hear the feedback
    I was thinking of doing that. It would be my first time trying AT2 as well so I am also tempted to run each product solo. I will gladly share my results either way.
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    ^^ that's my course of action. Already have two bottles at2 here, 2 anabeta on the way, and 6 weeks off since my last 7 weeks on shift. Natty, I'm good to go right ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by onemind1body View Post
    ^^ that's my course of action. Already have two bottles at2 here, 2 anabeta on the way, and 6 weeks off since my last 7 weeks on shift. Natty, I'm good to go right ?
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    I'm doing the AnaBeta /T2 also. For the ones of you who haven't ran T2 before, you shouldn't be disappointed. I ate like crap on it, and lost weight. Can't wait to dial in diet this time
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    One thing I dont recall seeing in the logs, whats libido like on AnaBeta?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    U going to stack AT2 and AnaBeta? WOuld love to hear the feedback
    Natty, I'm going to pre-order 2 bottles and run both along with Alpha-t2. What is the exact MOA regarding AnaBeta? I understand it's not necessarily in the same category as a test booster. How does it go about creating an anabolic environment? Does it elevate testosterone as eluded to in the studies? If so, to what degree? Thanks and I'm asking because I'm genuinely interested in the science behind products and I know you are as well. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    One thing I dont recall seeing in the logs, whats libido like on AnaBeta?
    I honestly didnt notice any change, however for me I was under special circumstances due to injury
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    One thing I dont recall seeing in the logs, whats libido like on AnaBeta?
    Dont think anyone saw a decrease in libido, and a few had an increase in libido
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Natty, I'm going to pre-order 2 bottles and run both along with Alpha-t2. What is the exact MOA regarding AnaBeta? I understand it's not necessarily in the same category as a test booster. How does it go about creating an anabolic environment? Does it elevate testosterone as eluded to in the studies? If so, to what degree? Thanks and I'm asking because I'm genuinely interested in the science behind products and I know you are as well. Thanks.
    I agree SP. I was wondering this too - what mechanism creates this anabolic response?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Dont think anyone saw a decrease in libido, and a few had an increase in libido
    Good news, can't let the mrs down while we are honeymooning. I'm taking AI Preform right towards the end of 8th week lol. Extra boost in Cancun, gotta stay fluffy in the swim trunks
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Dont think anyone saw a decrease in libido, and a few had an increase in libido
    I got an increase in libido just from being able to order it finally............
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicFox View Post
    I agree SP. I was wondering this too - what mechanism creates this anabolic response?
    See below:

    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Correct. If you compare the body weight gains of each group in the study you referenced in the other thread, you will see that when the body weight gain for the 100 AP group was greater than that of the testosterone group the prostate weight was significantly lower, suggesting a dominant anabolic action with mild angrogenic action.

    Since there was also an increase in testes weight and through other parameters of the study it likely increases testosterone as an additional effect, but this is not its main MoA. Its effects then would be considered non-AR mediated as if they were caused by any binding to the AR you would not see those same results.

    If anyone has read up on Bill Roberts material on non-AR mediated anabolics they might understand a little better
    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Its effects would be considered non-AR mediated anabolic. Even in anabolics that have been researched for years and in humans that have significant non-AR mediated effects the exact non-AR effects are yet to be determined. But Bill Roberts suspects "Unfortunately we cannot yet identify how many non-AR-mediated activities there may be. There are I think at least two: activity in microsomes and activities in nerves. There may be more. For example, differentiation of satellite cells of muscle into mature muscle cells might be a non-AR mediated activity."

    This is a quote in reference to non-AR mediated steroids, not AnaBeta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    See below:
    Thanks Natty, I was genuinely curious in the science behind the product. You guys have been putting out products that flat out work. I have no reason to think this would be any different. I look forward to trying your newest creation!
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    I officially ordered my 2 bottles. I will be looking forward to this.
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    Yo, Natty. Do you think Lean Xtreme would stack well with AnaBeta? Do you see any problems with this combination?
    (I ordered my 4 bottles last night!)
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    I prey for an invetion like that, but to act as HGH. LG made some progression on that, despite I had never tried GHenerate, but it`s a try: a natty HGH-r affinity.
    Hey PES, why don`t U try, lool
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICJLM View Post
    Yo, Natty. Do you think Lean Xtreme would stack well with AnaBeta? Do you see any problems with this combination?
    (I ordered my 4 bottles last night!)
    I dont see any problem with the combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by anbes View Post
    I prey for an invetion like that, but to act as HGH. LG made some progression on that, despite I had never tried GHenerate, but it`s a try: a natty HGH-r affinity.
    Hey PES, why don`t U try, lool
    We are always researching and looking for advances in the industry...that is certainly a category that we delve into
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    Natty, as U answer me fast, tks for that, let me ask: Have anabeta to cicled? for how long?
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