Are there any caffeine pre workout supplements out there?
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Clout is better in my opinion. But many people do love Ultima and it has a good profile (ran it for 2 straight tubs, didnt do a ton for me).
After running both, I much prefer Clout tho. Might as well try both out and see which you like better.
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I'd say that Caffeine is probably one of the majority ingredients in most PWOs, but there are a few of em out there with out it..
Carnobolic from AX is a caffeine & beta-alanine free PWO... So no extra stress from caffeine and no beta-alanine tingling, it just helps you squeeze out some extra reps without putting any extra stress on the body. Perfect for times when you wanna take a break from stimulants, but still wanna preform better then natural...
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Clout, Ultima, Pump-Bol.
Can always make your own using nootropics + Agmatine/Nitrates.
Also look for caffeine-free Focus XT to be coming soon...
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Ultima, Pump-bol, Ragnarok Caff-free
Cordygen vo2. And I'll second ultima. I love both
Xpand and Ragnorok both have caffeine free versions. I've tried both and like both. Or you can just create your own like Nom suggested, that's what I do most of the time. I like BCAA's, Beta Alanine, Agmatine, Creatine, and done. You can add in nitrates, GPLC, whatever. You can also add stims other then caffeine such as Syn-30, Yohimbine, or Adrena-G and adjust according to your own personal preference.
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xpand xtreme caffeine free
I have tried many mentioned and I believe Ultima is by far the best. Rag tasted bad and needed two scoops to be effective, home brews are great it is just covering up the flavor that is a pain. Good to hear about a stim free focus XT, that will be awesome for a late night workout.
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hemavol powder should be dropping very soon, i would suggest looking into it
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