Posted this in another thread:
I heard there was something relating to the fact that 1,3 isnt actually found in Geranium Stem...therefore it wouldnt fit the classifications of a supplement in the US.
Apparently the guy from Twinlab that brought creatine to the market is pushing something against them. Ran tests on Geranium stem, no 1,3 dimethyl found in geranium naturally according to the claim
I am not sure if this is related, but I heard they were pulled from boards due to legal reasons and then heard of this claim...havent seen the study myself
It was being talked about a bit on another board tho
Disclaimer: I really want to restate, this is what Ive heard but have not seen confirmation