Insulin Mimetic/Nutrient Repartitioner

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Weird. I can't click on the link b/c it's censored by AM.
    type sendspace in place of the ***
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by holmes215 View Post
    yea Im going to finish it up tomorrow so ill make some notes to shorten it up
    Read through the whole slide show!

    So much of this brings back the same questions I had before... will taking certain of these GDAs and Mimetics enhance the effects of Insulin injection for non-diabetics, using it for muscle reparation and anabolism?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    type sendspace in place of the ***
    LOL. I missed that part of the post, thanks!
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Read through the whole slide show!

    So much of this brings back the same questions I had before... will taking certain of these GDAs and Mimetics enhance the effects of Insulin injection for non-diabetics, using it for muscle reparation and anabolism?
    I believe cinnamon will because it activates glut4 through different means than cinnamon, in banaba extract there is no synergystic effect though

  5. Quote Originally Posted by holmes215 View Post
    I believe cinnamon will because it activates glut4 through different means than cinnamon
    ? Did you mean to replace one of the cinnamons with another additive?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Read through the whole slide show!

    So much of this brings back the same questions I had before... will taking certain of these GDAs and Mimetics enhance the effects of Insulin injection for non-diabetics, using it for muscle reparation and anabolism?
    it will sort of SELECTIVELY pick muscle tissue, hopefully. usually high concentrations of insulin for some reason favor storage toward fat. but lower concentrations depending on depleted or fed state or not will favor muscle tissue.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    ? Did you mean to replace one of the cinnamons with another additive?

    sorry I meant than insulin. I read that both work cooperatively because cinnamon targets glut4 but also other downstream targets so it can work synergystically

  8. NeoVar does this to an extent
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    it will sort of SELECTIVELY pick muscle tissue, hopefully. usually high concentrations of insulin for some reason favor storage toward fat. but lower concentrations depending on depleted or fed state or not will favor muscle tissue.
    Is this why it's a great idea to take a Mimetic with something to mitigate adipogenesis, like HCA?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by holmes215 View Post
    sorry I meant than insulin. I read that both work cooperatively because cinnamon targets glut4 but also other downstream targets so it can work synergystically
    Thanks! You've got cinnamon on the brain, haha!

    Bulk raw cinnamon power (not the raw herb, but decent 4:1 and 12:1) extracts can be purchased so cheap, I wonder if those are efficacious enough to even be worth buying and capping - or if only something highly standardized like Cinnulin is worthy?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by ssbackwards View Post
    it will sort of SELECTIVELY pick muscle tissue, hopefully. usually high concentrations of insulin for some reason favor storage toward fat. but lower concentrations depending on depleted or fed state or not will favor muscle tissue.
    Agree I believe the body has somewhat if an hierarchy with the brain getting first dibs on nutrients then organs and muscle and whatever is left over is stored as fat. I think the key is finding the amount if carbs and protein to fill you muscles but not too much that it starts getting stored as fat. Have you seen any info that would back this up? It has just been a belief of mine but I never came across anything really that supported it
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Agree I believe the body has somewhat if an hierarchy with the brain getting first dibs on nutrients then organs and muscle and whatever is left over is stored as fat. I think the key is finding the amount if carbs and protein to fill you muscles but not too much that it starts getting stored as fat. Have you seen any info that would back this up? It has just been a belief of mine but I never came across anything really that supported it
    first order of business would be muscle and liver. the rest would be as needed.

    liver is what controls blood sugar.

    after a workout its, muscles, then liver. or simulantiously both i believe. but more selective after a workout.

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Agree I believe the body has somewhat if an hierarchy with the brain getting first dibs on nutrients then organs and muscle and whatever is left over is stored as fat. I think the key is finding the amount if carbs and protein to fill you muscles but not too much that it starts getting stored as fat. Have you seen any info that would back this up? It has just been a belief of mine but I never came across anything really that supported it
    I agree. Its called glycogen stores. They can only store so much carbs in them, after that the carbs are stored as fat.

    Think of this as when you fill your car up. the excess gas is wasted. Bodybuiders getting ready for a show glycogens levels are depleted and they dont wont to totaly eliminate them but they do go pretty low like many go close to almost empty , its a fine line . If your losing strength fast, no pump, your stores are probally too low and you need a refeed day
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  15. I heard that AnaBeta had some profoundly powerful insulinogenic properties... can someone shed a light on this for me? I am making this same post in two other threads, so excuse the redundancy, only trying to get a rich mixture of opinion. I am thinking of stacking with Racompadrol and Need 2 Slin during my off-cycle/season through the winter as I increase calories to maintain newly realized mass. Thanks!

  16. 2 glycobols equal about 5 uis of insulin in a users experience with real insulin
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  17. So essentially 5 iu of slin is usualy useful for 50-75g carbs which is just about their recommendation. Good to know

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I heard that AnaBeta had some profoundly powerful insulinogenic properties... can someone shed a light on this for me? I am making this same post in two other threads, so excuse the redundancy, only trying to get a rich mixture of opinion. I am thinking of stacking with Racompadrol and Need 2 Slin during my off-cycle/season through the winter as I increase calories to maintain newly realized mass. Thanks!
    It isn't necessarily insulin mediated as far as we are aware, it just seems to increase the need of all food in general.

    Quantifiably while on AnaBeta I increased my post workout carb intake to 150g of an equal mix of dextrose and maltodextrin. This is the highest I have ever taken. I tried it again while off AnaBeta and felt horribly sick, in the end cutting it down by almost half.

    Carbs during the rest of the day were increased also but I lost visible fat despite eating more. Very strong recomp effects.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    It isn't necessarily insulin mediated as far as we are aware, it just seems to increase the need of all food in general.

    Quantifiably while on AnaBeta I increased my post workout carb intake to 150g of an equal mix of dextrose and maltodextrin. This is the highest I have ever taken. I tried it again while off AnaBeta and felt horribly sick, in the end cutting it down by almost half.

    Carbs during the rest of the day were increased also but I lost visible fat despite eating more. Very strong recomp effects.
    I have, for the first time in my years of training, also increased my carbs to 150-200g of carbohydrates after a workout. The only change I have made, is I have finally entered the realm of IGF-1-LR3 administration. The glycogen storage is unparalleled, and long lasting. I am still amazed even after a few weeks of ongoing usage, that I can wake up the following morning, and be so pumped and full that it is a challenge to wash the back of my neck in the shower.

    I'm not sure whether or not I will spend $40 plus shipping on AnaBeta, but come this winter, I am really entertaining it's usage.

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    heres for all who didn't see the original presentation

  21. Quote Originally Posted by holmes215 View Post
    http://www.sendspace.com/file/yoxttg

    heres for all who didn't see the original presentation
    I saw this. nice work.
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