- 03-12-2011, 11:01 AM
- 03-12-2011, 08:22 PM
As far as direct effects on LH, I'm honestly not sure. But HCGenerate sells out so fast for a reason.
I do love DAA, though
03-12-2011, 09:01 PM
Bridge is in stock for now, and can be bought for 25% off using a discount code like rickrock1325 through the rest of the month.
DAA is great, but you are not going to get the results you want out of tribulus products in my opinion
Recoverbro Elite"This is what we've been working on"
03-12-2011, 09:08 PM
What is in hcgenerate?
Of the top of my head some things that may work as natural alternatives to HCG:
4. 7, 8 benzoflavone
There is some research for each showing signs that they may act in a similar manner.
03-12-2011, 09:12 PM
03-12-2011, 09:19 PM
Servings per container 30
each serving contains
Fadogia Agrestis 1000mg
Fenugreek PE Extracted 50% 1000mg
3,4 Divanillytahydrofuran 500mg
Bulgarain Tribulus Terrstre 500mg
Vtiamin E 200mg
HCGenerate uses fadogia agrestis as one of the active ingredients to stimulate the leydig cells. As men age, the leydig cells activity decreases, putting strain on the pituitary gland- which in turn causes low levels of testosterone production. As the leydig cells are stimulated, the pituitary can begin to function at a normal pace and produce a higher concentration of both free testosterone and total serum levels.
The advantage to using HCGenerate on cycle is that it reduces HPTA shutdown by keeping the leydig cells stimulated, and makes transition into Post Cycle Therapy very smooth. Use of exogenous testosterone or harsh oral cycles puts the body’s natural production to a halt and causes erectile dysfunction, elevated estrogen levels, and in a lot of cases could cost you the hard earned gains achieved on cycle. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin or HCG is often used by body builders to minimize HPTA shutdown. This also allows for our libido to remain unaffected on cycle, and in many cases increases libido. The downside to using this compound is that it is illegal and must be administered via a subcutaneous injection several times weekly.
Recoverbro Elite"This is what we've been working on"
03-12-2011, 10:08 PM
i will only say this about hcgenerate. is it a replacement for hcg? no, nothing natural is. i did log it though. im on trt and had been for about 8 or 9 months when i tried it. i hadnt used hcg that entire time. the boys were good and shrunk which i dont mind. anyways i absolutely did get some size to the boys after a few weeks on hcgen. they certainly didnt come back to normal but a noticable increase in fullness.
also hcgen makes me a f'ing machine. huge jumps in libido. not sure what in there does it as ive tried fadogia, testofen, trib all seperately and got no where near what i get out of the products together so must just be a synergystic effect of total ingredient profile.
note i have no affiliation to ntbm
03-12-2011, 10:13 PM
03-12-2011, 10:26 PM
The sex drive is apparent right away. Literally first dose will have you bangin like a champ lol. I always take 3-4 caps on nights I know I'm gettin some.
I know I rep for the company so I try not to review our products too much just try to help people with questions and such, but I also noticed increase testicular size within 3 days using HCGenerate.
Made my nuts hang low, real pink, and full just like injecting hCG did. I was off cycle in PCT using it.
03-12-2011, 10:29 PM
I would say this is a pretty darn good alternative.as these guys have said it works and works very well so theres def a reason it sells out very very fast.what are your goals?
03-12-2011, 11:11 PM
03-12-2011, 11:26 PM
03-12-2011, 11:31 PM
is it the holy grail? hell no. but for some reason it makes me so f'ing horny. my cabinet is always stocked with the pretty blue and white bottles. i do cycle it though like 3 weeks on 2-3 weeks off as the intensity drops off but when i start back up it begins all over again. my fav supp of all time
03-12-2011, 11:32 PM
03-13-2011, 12:10 AM
I don't want to seem like I'm pimping products but if your really interested in the hcgenerate now is a great time to pre order some and use my discount code mich2925.I'm also personally offering one free product as well if you use the code. here is a link to the promo if you want to check out how it works.
Use Mich2925 and Get a FREE Surprise
I really want to thank for your interest I know you know your **** so for you to be interested says alot.
I'm also wondering about the Fadogia-500 what would you say would be a good dose if I were to use this while on a bulk?
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03-14-2011, 09:15 AM
"•When the NMDA binding sites are triggered in the hypothalamus by DAA and its co-agonist (in this case N-Methyl Glycine), there is an increase in cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP) activity in the pituitary. cGMP is classified as a second messenger, meaning that it exerts its effects by acting in a manner secondary and in response to a first messenger signaling molecule. When the first messenger signaling molecules bind to a receptor (in this case, D-Aspartic Acid and its co-agonist bind to NR-1 and NR-2), the secondary pathway is activated that increases cGMP production. The heightened levels of cGMP in the pituitary correspond to an increased production of gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH), and growth hormone releasing hormone (GHRH). The resulting increase in GHRH from stimulation of the NMDA receptor also allows increased amounts of growth hormone (GH) to be secreted from the pituitary, while an increase in GnRH subsequently signals the pituitary to release luteinizing hormone (LH), and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) (see figure 2). This increase in LH and FSH allows for an increase in steroidogenesis in the testes, which subsequently allows for the production of increased amounts of testosterone, as explained below ((1-3,10-13,43,45,59-60,75-77).
•Luteinizing Hormone, via receptors found on the surface of Leydig cells (a type of cell that helps produce testosterone) in the testes, controls the production and secretion of testosterone. The subsequent binding of LH with its receptor on the Leydig cell allows a signal to be sent through the cyclic AMP (another type of second messenger) pathway. Once this signaling occurs, the protein kinase A pathway is then activated, and this ultimately allows for the release of testosterone after 30-60 minutes of LH stimulation (42-43,108-109).
• Similarly, increases in cGMP from Lit-Up™ also enhance phosphorylation (a fancy word for activation via attachment of a phosphate group) of the steroidogenic acute regulatory protein (StAR), a Leydig cell cholesterol transfer protein that provides the building blocks for testosterone synthesis. This is important for increasing endogenous testosterone production, in that StAR activation is necessary for the stimulation of steroidogenic enzymes involved in the transfer of cholesterol to testosterone. These results suggest that increases in cGMP correlate to increases in basal steroidogenesis in the Leydig cells of the testes through the protein kinase G (PKG, or a type of enzyme that cGMP interacts with)-dependent modification of the StAR protein and interaction with LH. To summarize, Lit-Up™ increases LH, cGMP, and StAR activity, all of which can significantly up the amount of testosterone produced in the body (42-43,108-109)."
Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
03-16-2011, 02:46 PM
03-16-2011, 05:25 PM
When we had the last order in transit, we put the pre-order option up there since it would be shipping out almost instantly.
So, I'm sure we'll be doing it the same way this time. In the meantime, if you make sure you're on the NTBM site mailing list, you'll get the first word of it when it's coming in.
03-16-2011, 05:36 PM
Nothing against HCGen, it is a very well put together product. That said, it is expensive and only is good for 1 month. You could get slin pins, BA water and HCG for many months for the cost of one round of HCGen. To me if you need a solution that will work without question, go that route. It is easy to get domestically and not expensive. Don't play around with the boys downstairs!
If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).
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