D Aspartic Acid & Negative side effects
- 03-03-2011, 06:11 PM
D Aspartic Acid & Negative side effects
I've ran a few cycles of DAA some for 12 days some for 3 or 4 weeks. I've noted no noticeable negative side effect.
HOWEVER, I keep seeing random posts in DAA topics about DAA causing harm to the nmda receptor? What's up with this I'm? I don't want to use anything That's gonna **** me up.
- 03-03-2011, 06:15 PM
I saw a thread of DR. D claiming it was healthy for that receptor as long as you did not stimulate for long periods of time and that taking a break at no less than half the time on would help. Also something about this receptor helping animals survival modes. Search Dr d on DAA itl come up
- 03-03-2011, 06:22 PM
03-03-2011, 06:27 PM
I had a really bad breakout when my DAA ran out. Whats up with that?
03-03-2011, 06:30 PM
03-03-2011, 06:34 PM
03-03-2011, 06:39 PM
03-03-2011, 06:40 PM
i also found a thread where dinoii says he read a study saying that aspartame at 5-6 grams daily for 24 weeks showed no signs of brain disorder. probably the closest to a clinical daa study you will find, imo.
my advice, run it for short cycles of a month or less just to be cautious, with the same amount of off time before running again-this is for us guys who don't have bad reactions to it. if you have bad reactions to it you would be a fool to continue using.
03-03-2011, 06:48 PM
03-03-2011, 06:50 PM
I read a lot on DAA and excitotoxicity. As DAA is new in the bodybuilding world everything I read was subjective.
Quotes like this from some of the 'experts' in formula creation for a couple of the companies/company owners/scientists etc.
"I don't think it will be a problem in high doses"
"Take appropriate time off between cycles"
I wasn't convinced because it was a hypothesis at best. What is a "high dose"? Some people reported serious psychological effects from taking it at recommended doses but others didn't.
So, a high dose for one may not be a high dose for another. It makes sense that time on:time off ratios would be different for people as well when considering safety.
This isn't like a PCT or hormonal cycle where you get a hormonal profile, liver, lipid etc to see if they are ready to run again. How are you going to assess any damage caused?
People have been on DAA for much longer periods of time than the initial 12 day and reported "no ill effects" but again, this was based on how they felt.
Just my thoughts on it.
03-03-2011, 06:50 PM
03-03-2011, 07:14 PM
03-03-2011, 07:33 PM
Don't have any comments on the science side of it.. But I took it for 12 days and had to stop.. Seriously affected my psyche. I will probably take it on my next PCT but only for 7-10 days.. At first the effects were tollerable but it got to be too much..
03-03-2011, 07:46 PM
03-03-2011, 07:50 PM
Stuff is amazing. Only side effect is the runs for a few days after starting it. I get a huge boost in libido and also strength gains and fat loss.
03-03-2011, 08:12 PM
i am on it 4 first tme and freakin lovin it. I am going to add to future pct
03-03-2011, 08:38 PM
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Those that are prone to anxiety or stress tend to experience the negative emotional effects when using DAA.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
03-03-2011, 11:40 PM
03-04-2011, 12:37 AM
Those of you that had bad experiences, did you alter the time of day you took it? Space out the doses? Try it with and without food, etc?
Training around a jacked up neck.
03-04-2011, 12:40 AM
03-04-2011, 03:35 AM
ive heard it can raise prolactin levels, is this true?
03-04-2011, 06:13 AM
DAA gave me bad headaches and extremely high libido.
03-04-2011, 06:14 AM
03-04-2011, 06:33 AM
I dosed it first thing in the morning before breakfast and i felt great! Better than a cup of coffee I'd say.
Bought the SNS bulk caps for my upcoming cycle. We'll see how it compares
03-04-2011, 07:00 AM
really didnt get alot out of it..i was ok for about 5 days then my libido tanked as well..
03-04-2011, 07:08 AM
I am not entirely convinced that is true. Well what i mean is that i am not saying these people dont feel that way but i think it could be that they worry that the stuff might make them feel that way and then its a self fullfiling prophecy (because they read all that scary stuff people post about it)
i am subject to stress and anxiety and i never had any such problem with the stuff. i actually felt better. I know other similar folk with same result
03-04-2011, 07:13 AM
03-04-2011, 07:25 AM
03-04-2011, 07:32 AM
03-04-2011, 07:33 AM
03-04-2011, 08:40 AM
Here is the fact, We are dealing with a known excitotoxin. The acute studies that information is being pulled from is a bit ominous in my opinion. We are dosing a known excitotoxin at supra physiological levels with no long term real research. There is a resounding crowd that provides the same response of increased anxiety, mood swings, and depression.
There are things I will try that have known or theoretical side effects because the juice is worth the squeeze. My brain is not one of em.
The Historic PES Legend
03-04-2011, 09:47 AM
It is USELESS to surmise whose mood will benefit from this positively and whose will not. Your level of stress from your day to day activities is of no consequence when you are introducing an excitotoxin into your brain. At a chemical level, your brain doesn't care what you just did today (when introducing unnatural amounts of chemicals to promote a response).
This isn't to say that I'm against using DAA, just know that you cannot project other people's experiences onto yourself. You have to be comfortable with the fact that you won't know how you will respond.
03-04-2011, 10:35 AM
03-04-2011, 10:59 AM
I will use it in my next PCT but only for 7-10 days..
03-04-2011, 11:32 AM
No problemos here with this boy and DAA!
Love pump is working awesomely ... and I'm always thinking about my wife! LOL.
No perceived problems with my mental / emotional state either - though I'm not a good subject for that kind of stuff. I have two brain cells and one thinks about sex and the other about lifting ... they're both occupied pretty much all the time! No real "complexity" to my very 2-dimensional tiny brain!
03-04-2011, 11:37 AM
03-04-2011, 11:51 AM
03-06-2011, 09:28 PM
03-08-2011, 04:08 PM
I got a wierd headache the seemed to be in the center of my brain, it was constant - not overpowering but strong enough to know something was not right. That was from day one.
The DAA is now on the shelf until further notice.
03-08-2011, 04:14 PM
Couple quick reads on methylation- this is the key to how the Lit-Up formula minimizes any type of potential side effects from D-Aspartic Acid:
This is why some people get depressed or anxious on regular DAA products- DAA activates the NMDA receptor, and NMDA activation, while ok in itself, is not good in excess. When homocysteine begins to build up (it is a by-product in the SAM-e cycle), it can actually cause additional excess activation in the NMDA receptor. This can lead to a lot of the sides you are hearing about from DAA, such as anxiety, depression, and night sweats. However, homocysteine has two routes of disposal- and this is the beauty of the formulation:
1. It can accumulate and be disposed of in the urine
2. It can be transformed (re-methylated) into methionine by folic acid, where it can re-enter the SAM-e cycle and be used again.
As you can see in the articles, Folate, TMG, and B-12, are all substrates that help to increase step 2- and this is why you will see few, if any DAA-related sides from Lit-Up- the product contains agents that re-methylate homocysteine, thus preventing any type of build-up in the tissues and keeping it from overloading the NMDA receptor....
Dirk Tanis, BA, MSci
Chief Operating Officer, Applied Nutriceuticals
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