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  1. Pes Shift ?


    So was poking around the pes website and saw this new product.
    My question is; is it the same as alpha t2? Looking at the picture for the labels they seem to have the same ingredients, although that could be a mistake on the site.

    Anyone care to chime in on this ?

    Thanks




  2. SHIFT will be available for sale in about 7-10 days.

    It will be just 3,3'-T2

    It will be VERY affordable AND we are going to have an introductory sale!

    SHIFT will be able to be used it MANY ways:

    Standalone for a GREAT stim free, extra calorie burning, metabolism increasing experience.

    STACKED in a STIM FREE STACK

    SHIFT + DCP | Ultimate Stim Free Fatloss

    SHIFT + Erase | Ultimate metabolism and estrogen control

    SHIFT + Lean Xtreme | Stim free, cortisol destroying stack

    STACKED with STIM BURNERS to add Increased metabolism and thyroid output to your stack!

    SHIFT + Alpha-T2

    SHIFT + OxyElite Pro

    SHIFT + HEAT

    SHIFT + Adrenalean

    For starters...
    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined

  3. Looking forward to this, Josh! You're going to have some ultimate stacks with PES products alone!

    ~Rosie~
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  4. Wait so the only igrediant it 3,3? How is it diff than alpha being 3,5? Isn't 3,3 cause shut down on thyroid.

  5. neither 3,3' or 3,5 can cause shutdown of the thyroid. anyone who claims otherwise fails to do math properly.

  6. Nice, I love stimulus free fat burners.

    This and dcp sounds nice

  7. Cool stuff. Gonna try Erase for the first time soon so I have my eyes on what else PES brings to the table.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Thepaul7 View Post
    Cool stuff. Gonna try Erase for the first time soon so I have my eyes on what else PES brings to the table.
    You are going to LOVE Erase!
    Contact Me for INDIVIDUALIZED TRAINING AND NUTRITION

    "Think like a Champion. Train like a Warrior. Live with a Purpose." - Rosie Chee

  9. Why nit just combine them in one, I don't see the point of two diff bottles, which is stronger

  10. It appears my dilemma of AT2 and HEAT is over. This fits perfectly into my plans.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  11. Wait I'm confused alpa caries 3,3 abd this does too? So is it same product what's diff?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post


    SHIFT will be available for sale in about 7-10 days.

    It will be just 3,3'-T2

    It will be VERY affordable AND we are going to have an introductory sale!

    SHIFT will be able to be used it MANY ways:

    Standalone for a GREAT stim free, extra calorie burning, metabolism increasing experience.

    STACKED in a STIM FREE STACK

    SHIFT + TT-33 | Super metabolism increase and thyroid output

    SHIFT + DCP | Ultimate Stim Free Fatloss

    SHIFT + Erase | Ultimate metabolism and estrogen control

    SHIFT + Lean Xtreme | Stim free, cortisol destroying stack

    STACKED with STIM BURNERS to add Increased metabolism and thyroid output to your stack!

    SHIFT + Alpha-T2

    SHIFT + OxyElite Pro

    SHIFT + HEAT

    SHIFT + Adrenalean

    For starters...

    AWSOME!!!!!
    SNS Online Representative
    Maxximal @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com

    Got Glycophase ...?



  13. Well done Natty!
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  14. If its 3,3 its same alpha if it is 3,5 then its the bad u even said here

    Science behind 3,5 vs. 3,3

    Im just curious what's in it

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Why nit just combine them in one, I don't see the point of two diff bottles, which is stronger
    I figure the profile on site the is ment to look like this.



    Feel free to steal this image for your site if it's correct Natty
    Last edited by SynergyIre; 01-13-2011 at 11:58 AM. Reason: Incase it caused confusion :)

  16. That's what I wanted to se thanks. Hmmmm y were the other ingredients droped? Wat do they do

  17. FWIW, I've had a blood test done half way through a run of mitotropin (containing both 3,3 and 3,5). My TSH returned a value of 2.0 smack in the middle of a reference range of 0.4 - 4.0. Mind you, I was only taking one dose a day instead of the recommended two.

  18. Hmmmmmm

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Wait I'm confused alpa caries 3,3 abd this does too? So is it same product what's diff?
    This is a cheaper, stim free fat burner that can be stacked with everything.

    It will not be as strong as AT2, but instead will be utilized differently


    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    That's what I wanted to se thanks. Hmmmm y were the other ingredients droped? Wat do they do
    Not everyone likes stimulants, even though the stims in AT2 are very mild. SHIFT can be used by those looking for very low side effects
    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined

  20. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    This is a cheaper, stim free fat burner that can be stacked with everything.

    It will not be as strong as AT2, but instead will be utilized differently




    Not everyone likes stimulants, even though the stims in AT2 are very mild. SHIFT can be used by those looking for very low side effects

    and before bed is a plus
    SNS Online Representative
    Maxximal @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com

    Got Glycophase ...?



  21. Well after reading this I have to say I am intrigued. I really liked at2 in the past and was totally digging erase, but going to have to stop taking it due to the antibiotic i'm on. At least I was only 5 days into the erase cycle.

    I'm thinking I may just start an at2,erase,shift stack and see what happens. Really like everything that's come out of pes so far so don't imagine this could be bunk.

  22. Label on the site is wrong

    This one is correct

    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined

  23. Sorry for the confusion, I didnt know the wrong image was on the website!

    Getting it fixed

    Thanks guys
    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined

  24. So when is this going to be available?

  25. I heard that stuff is BUNK!! Haha just kidding, this is definitely going to be the same high quality as Alpha T2 and Erase, glad to see it natty!
    Gain Strength. Add Lean Mass. Recover Faster. : ERGONINE

  26. Any word on the intro sale price?
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  27. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Any word on the intro sale price?
    Super cheap...like less than what you spend on food per day when bulking
    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined

  28. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Super cheap...like less than what you spend on food per day when bulking
    I'd guess $9.99 :-P we'll see though

  29. like someone said earlier, shift will be great for bedtime dosing.

  30. Whats the benfit of pre bed?

  31. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Whats the benfit of pre bed?
    insomnia

  32. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Whats the benfit of pre bed?
    Increased fat loss while you sleep, while still being able to fall asleep. Something that is hard to come by with many burners
    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined

  33. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Whats the benfit of pre bed?
    burn more fat whuile you sleep.


    btw-1 of things i 1st noticed when i 1st took at-2 was better sleep. this was very noticeable to me since i have trouble falling asleep. since i have been using at-2 for awhile now this effect seems to have diminshed, hopefully shift will give me effect once again. i am eager to try and see.

  34. So whats the story with this stuff? Gonna be available soon?
    was thinking of stacking this with at2 and erase. Thinking of taking just 1 maybe 2 shift before going to bed.

  35. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Increased fat loss while you sleep, while still being able to fall asleep. Something that is hard to come by with many burners
    Yeah and not only that but you don't have to worry about the dependence and withdrawal from high doses of caffeine later on. As great as caffeine can be dependence and tolerance build up quick and you are on an up and down rollercoaster all day.
    Gain Strength. Add Lean Mass. Recover Faster. : ERGONINE

  36. Quote Originally Posted by mmacrazy View Post
    So whats the story with this stuff? Gonna be available soon?
    was thinking of stacking this with at2 and erase. Thinking of taking just 1 maybe 2 shift before going to bed.
    Should be shipping to Nutra this week.

    2 caps pre-bed would optimal and effective
    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined

  37. Quote Originally Posted by mmacrazy View Post
    So whats the story with this stuff? Gonna be available soon?
    was thinking of stacking this with at2 and erase. Thinking of taking just 1 maybe 2 shift before going to bed.
    this...

  38. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    this...
    Based on Nattys first post, 19th-22nd of this month. Sounds like he's on target for that! :-D

  39. Quote Originally Posted by SynergyIre View Post
    Based on Nattys first post, 19th-22nd of this month. Sounds like he's on target for that! :-D
    yup- natty usually doesn't say something until he is sure it is gonna happen...

  40. Quote Originally Posted by SynergyIre View Post
    Based on Nattys first post, 19th-22nd of this month. Sounds like he's on target for that! :-D
    Nutra has added it to their store

    Sale price will be annonced when its available for sale...dun dun dun...oh the suspense
    HIGH VOLUME - Supreme Stim-Free Nitric Oxide Matrix
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  

  
 

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