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    beware of swole stack and tcf-1


    Not only did it cause me to knock up the g/f but I'm having twins

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    congrats. but dont credit that which had nothing to do with it
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    You did read the very small disclaimer on the Swole Stack right LOL. Congrats I have twins also it is a blessing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ambulldog View Post
    congrats. but dont credit that which had nothing to do with it
    if testopro,stoked,and tcf-1 can increase sperm count how could it not have something to do with having identical twins ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    if testopro,stoked,and tcf-1 can increase sperm count how could it not have something to do with having identical twins ?
    please tell me you are joking or do you really have no idea what you are taking? and btw having twins has nothing to do with sperm count. jeez no wonder you believe those supps caused you to have twins
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    haha oh jeez mannn. way to go. well are you gona marry her now? because I noticed ya said GF. you dont gota answer if you dont wana haha.
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    lol.... Congratulations???
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    yea we will get married but i wanna do it later. i dont want to rush the wedding i want to do it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambulldog View Post
    please tell me you are joking or do you really have no idea what you are taking? and btw having twins has nothing to do with sperm count. jeez no wonder you believe those supps caused you to have twins
    ....you're being very hard on the guy... I mean realistically if an increase in libido caused him to make love to his woman more often then normal then this would increase the chance of impregnating her. If one is to make love to a women everyday and more then once a day b/c he is always horny due to a natty test boosting stack...this will def increase the probability of getting a girl pregnant would you not agree?


    Concerning his sperm count....well one can correlate increase in testosterone within the testes to increase sperm count...which can also increase the chances of impregnating a woman. Testosterone along with FSH will increase sperm and in doing so make a man more fertile per say.

    Identical twins are due to embryo splitting so that in itself does not have anything to do with sperm count. If they were fraternal then that would have to do with two eggs being released.


    I see what your saying buddy but no reason to come down so hard. A loose correlation can be made and if anything it can attribute to the increase in libido one will/could experience when using this stack.



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    ^^^^^ What he said
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    Not only did it cause me to knock up the g/f but I'm having twins
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    Sounds good to me man, glad your trying to do it right, and congrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    ....you're being very hard on the guy... I mean realistically if an increase in libido caused him to make love to his woman more often then normal then this would increase the chance of impregnating her. If one is to make love to a women everyday and more then once a day b/c he is always horny due to a natty test boosting stack...this will def increase the probability of getting a girl pregnant would you not agree?


    Concerning his sperm count....well one can correlate increase in testosterone within the testes to increase sperm count...which can also increase the chances of impregnating a woman. Testosterone along with FSH will increase sperm and in doing so make a man more fertile per say.

    Identical twins are due to embryo splitting so that in itself does not have anything to do with sperm count. If they were fraternal then that would have to do with two eggs being released.


    I see what your saying buddy but no reason to come down so hard. A loose correlation can be made and if anything it can attribute to the increase in libido one will/could experience when using this stack.



    To the OP....CHEERS!! God has to bless you with two identical bundles of joy! CONGRATS!!!!
    now i get it your an ai rep backing the products. i wasnt trying to be hard on him just telling him not to give credit to a supp that didnt do anything. since you jumped to his defense ill be hard on your pathetic attempt. you should not speak of that which you know not much about. here goes

    1) the more you bang the less sperm you actually have. so being horny and taking care of business more than usual does not increase your chances of conceiving. that is all about timing. didnt you take health in school? furthermore if you go more than once a day youd likely be considered infertile in a short time as it takes time to produce sperm. dont believe that ask a uro or fertility specialist. they actually rec no sexual activity for a few days leading up to ovulation. why you ask? to build up sperm count. so no i dont agree with you...
    2)an increase in test does not = increase in sperm count necessarily. if you really think an otc product is truly gonna increase sperm count to a degree that it would increase your chances of being more fertile you are sadly mistaken
    3)i will agree that one would more than likely see an increase in libido while on this stack but not much more than that. certainly not the ability to help you in concieving a child.

    next time you jump to someones defense have a clue
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambulldog View Post
    now i get it your an ai rep backing the products. i wasnt trying to be hard on him just telling him not to give credit to a supp that didnt do anything. since you jumped to his defense ill be hard on your pathetic attempt. you should not speak of that which you know not much about. here goes

    1) the more you bang the less sperm you actually have. so being horny and taking care of business more than usual does not increase your chances of conceiving. that is all about timing. didnt you take health in school? furthermore if you go more than once a day youd likely be considered infertile in a short time as it takes time to produce sperm. dont believe that ask a uro or fertility specialist. they actually rec no sexual activity for a few days leading up to ovulation. why you ask? to build up sperm count. so no i dont agree with you...
    2)an increase in test does not = increase in sperm count necessarily. if you really think an otc product is truly gonna increase sperm count you are sadly mistaken
    3)i will agree that one would more than likely see an increase in libido while on this stack but not much more than that. certainly not the ability to help you in concieving a child.

    next time you jump to someones defense have a clue
    Holy **** are you guys actually going to argue over what caused twins? In all seriousness this is pathetic. Just congratulate the guy and GTFO
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    thanks for all the congrats guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambulldog View Post
    now i get it your an ai rep backing the products. i wasnt trying to be hard on him just telling him not to give credit to a supp that didnt do anything. since you jumped to his defense ill be hard on your pathetic attempt. you should not speak of that which you know not much about. here goes

    1) the more you bang the less sperm you actually have. so being horny and taking care of business more than usual does not increase your chances of conceiving. that is all about timing. didnt you take health in school? furthermore if you go more than once a day youd likely be considered infertile in a short time as it takes time to produce sperm. dont believe that ask a uro or fertility specialist. they actually rec no sexual activity for a few days leading up to ovulation. why you ask? to build up sperm count. so no i dont agree with you...
    2)an increase in test does not = increase in sperm count necessarily. if you really think an otc product is truly gonna increase sperm count to a degree that it would increase your chances of being more fertile you are sadly mistaken
    3)i will agree that one would more than likely see an increase in libido while on this stack but not much more than that. certainly not the ability to help you in concieving a child.

    next time you jump to someones defense have a clue

    My good man allow me to cordially respond to your "hard" post directed to me and add some support to my "pathetic" attempt.

    First off if you note the 4th line of my post i state, and I qoute "A loose correlation can be made and if anything it can attribute to the increase in libido one will/could experience when using this stack. "

    Now i think its obvious here that I was simply saying...hey, if anything this is some anecdoctal feedback the user gave us. I never said that it was the scientific cause of the fertilization, nor was it the main reason. All i said is if you hump a lot....your going to increase your chances of impregnanting a woman as oppose to if you dont hump as much, given you are not planning for a child. He was not planning for a child less twins.


    Now allow me to address your points one by one. Just so you know my tone it is calm and respectful. By no means am I attacking you, just defending my perceived weaknes.

    1) I am sure you are fully are it takes roughly 64-75 days for sperm to fully mature. This is a cyclic process that began way back when. So a man who has reached pubertal maturity is producing new sperm daily. Therefore has the possibility of being released daily at a fertile level at least once. Any more times the number will decrease but the total amount depositing in the vagina will of course increase.

    Sperm do not live indefinitely in the man...they die off in about 5 days considering sperm count doesnt increase past the 5th day on average. So you just dont continue to accumulate more and more and more sperm. They will die off. A male sperm can live in a woman on average for 4-5 days...sometimes longer...i believe the upper limit is 7 days... this is a stretch but not unheard of if vaginal conditions are optimal especially while the woman is fertile.

    So taking into consideration a womans eggs survive 1-2 days and is fertile and receptive up to 5 days before hand this allows sperm to accumulate for 7 days in pretty optimal conditions.

    Now if a heathy man were to have sex with a women every single day...his sperm will accumulate being that new sperm is being produced daily. This will INCREASE THE PROBABILITY BUT NOT ASSURE(emphasis, not screaming) that you will impregnate her. If you are PLANNING a pregnancy then you can calculate when she is ovulating and allow semen to accumulate and then let 'er rip around ovulation and you just deposit as much as possible having sex as many times to allow for accumulation. You have sex as much during that time and abstain for 3-4 days before hand.

    But to say increased sexual activity does not increase the chance of pregnancy is false. Increased sexual activity will lead to increased possibility of unplanned pregnancy in two healthy adults. This is a commonly known fact...thus the invention of contraceptions to allow as much sex as you want and minimize the chance of pregnancy.

    Your example takes a specific situation out of context. Your example is that of planning pregnancy and thus optimizing the chances so you take special precautions. But remember...ppl have been getting pregnant with a Dr.'s help since the creation of man...and all they did was have a lot of sex.

    2) Your first line indicates that testosterone levels and seminal production are not correlated. This is false...and exogenous supplementatin of testosterone suppresses seminal production b/c they shut down your testes. Now if your statement where true then hypogondal men wouldnt have a problem with sperm count...but they do. They need to raise their endogenous test thus showing a correlation between testosterone production and sperm production.

    "High levels of intratesticular testosterone, secreted by the leydig cells, are necessary for spermatogenesis." this is a quote from WORLD JOURNAL OF UROLOGY, topic paper entitled "Androgens and male fertility".

    And remember there are a few hormones that have a positive correlation with sperm production...testosterone is one of these. This is a highly supported belief. Journals as far back as 1986 began establishing this. This first one i came across was in the journal of Obstetricians and Gynecologists in an article titled "Correlation Between Follicle-Stimulating Hormone, Luteinizing Hormone, Prolactin, and Testosterone With Sperm Cell Concentration and Motility".

    So yes...if a man where to increase natural endogenous testosterone which is produced by the testes...this indicates an increase in testes activity and can lead to increase in sperm concentration.

    Can on OTC product increase sperm count? Have you ever seen studies on MACA? If not i invite you to look it up my friend. This is a OTC product with a significant amount of scientific backing. I can name a few more but i have proven I am not mistaken in thinking an OTC product can produce sperm count.


    And lastly, point 3) we both agree that an increase in libido is possible while on OTC products. Can it help you concieve a child? Will not directly. Like i said before a loose correlation can be made at best. Nothing with hardcore scientific studies comparing individuals on Swole stack+TCF-1 and individuals of Swole Stack+TCF-1 in comparing sperm count, motility, etc etc.

    It's anecdotal in that our friend got horny....had a lot of sex....and got his girl pregnant. It could have happened while he wasnt even on the stack or any stack...it just so happened it occured while taking the products. That's it.


    It's a lot to read i know...but if you read it I think I have supported that my previous post was not made in ignorance.
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    My apologies StopStalking....i didnt mean to hijack your thread and take away from the congratulations that are in order.

    again Congrats buddy!
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    Do you know the sex yet? I'm scared to death that I'm going to have twin girls.
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    The more you bang the more cleaning your testicles get to experience, so you are constantly refreshing your testicles with a fresh army of sperm. As such, with the increase of mass evacuation of the sperm, you are allowing room for better and stronger sperm to fill in the now empty space. Essentially, if he was not taking the swole stack and tcf-1 he probably would have banged less and his testicles would have gone through a rarer renewal cycle, allowing for worse sperm to stick around and survive. And just like that he would have let go a sperm that would end up growing up into some lame loser that couldn't lift a 300lb nor do calculus.

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    some of you guys have destroyed this thread so much it makes me want to do this

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    ^^^^Looks painful...I wouldn't recommend it. And if you did that then you couldnt see this:



    It wasnt my intention to destroy the thread. I orginally just tried to change the tone from bashing the guy for saying something that was funny in my opinion to something more light hearted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Do you know the sex yet? I'm scared to death that I'm going to have twin girls.
    What if it's twin east asian girls. You would have the cutest most badass kids on the street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noot View Post
    What if it's twin east asian girls. You would have the cutest most badass kids on the street.
    Um...unless he is an asian man that would be a big problem if his significant other is spitting out asian babies....even though they are adorable lol
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    we are not sure of the sex yet. but after the twins beer commericals i am really praying for boys. i will let you guys know when i find out
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    I think more trashy pics are a must, 3 cheers for swole stack and tcf-1 producing babies.
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    Congrats... when I saw the title I thought oh no he flew off the handle, didn't I try to warn him.
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    congrats....blamedmine on hennesy and weed but thats all in the past....mostly
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    we are not sure of the sex yet. but after the twins beer commericals i am really praying for boys. i will let you guys know when i find out
    I have the twin boys. My boy are not identical in fact they have different color eyes and 1 was always husky and the other petit like his mother. You would never know they were twins.
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    while we are talking about kids, i have 3 girls,ages 12yo-10yo-and3 months---anyone else take a decade off between kids
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikaveli06 View Post
    while we are talking about kids, i have 3 girls,ages 12yo-10yo-and3 months---anyone else take a decade off between kids
    I hope you were still getting some in that decade LOL. Seriously congrats bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    yea we will get married but i wanna do it later. i dont want to rush the wedding i want to do it right
    wait... what? I thought doing it right was the other way around, get married, then get pregnant.

    j/k... Prost
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    With the popularity of divorce, especially here in the states, I think having children before marriage is a better idea. Less damaging for everyone, both mentally and financially.
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    wow that would of sucked huh...just switched to a new babymamma....only found 2 willing to stick around long enough for babies
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehealer View Post
    wait... what? I thought doing it right was the other way around, get married, then get pregnant.

    j/k... Prost
    this is true, we were not trying. I do wanna get married but i have friends who rushed it just because they had a kid on the way and they say it feels like they never got married
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    this is true, we were not trying. I do wanna get married but i have friends who rushed it just because they had a kid on the way and they say it feels like they never got married
    I know what you mean bro. You are going about it the right way, I was just messing around.

    You're going to have a blast with you children. Spend as much time with them as possible. Before you know it... they're grown and gone.

    Edit: One more thing, don't use her time being pregnant against her when you're deciding whether or not to marry her. They are NOT nice people when pregnant.
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    congrats on the twins, kids are an absolute blast. Will change your life forever (in a good way)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking View Post
    this is true, we were not trying. I do wanna get married but i have friends who rushed it just because they had a kid on the way and they say it feels like they never got married
    Marriage is important if you're having kids, the problem in this day and age is there is too many single parents. Kids need both parents to develop. Sometimes 2 parents is just barely enough. Both parents need to work on any outstanding issues they may have as baggage is a bad thing to bring into a child's upbringing. What you are and how you come across (your energy) will mean much more than what you say. The words united front will be very important in the next while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehealer View Post
    I know what you mean bro. You are going about it the right way, I was just messing around.

    You're going to have a blast with you children. Spend as much time with them as possible. Before you know it... they're grown and gone.
    Edit: One more thing, don't use her time being pregnant against her when you're deciding whether or not to marry her. They are NOT nice people when pregnant.
    So very true. Seems like 1 day your changing crappy diapers then they are asking to borrow the car keys.
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    congrats on the twins man thats a blessing dont rush the wedding it can wait she might change up on you lol
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