Erase vs. Formestane
- 10-06-2010, 11:06 AM
I did have aching joints..But i have with any cortisol blocker that works, the worst of all being 11-oxo, or adrenosterone,... but when my bloods were done, my estradiol levels were only fractionaly less, however cortisol was far less..Test was raised though, and i did not say it didnt boost test, another thing i love about erase was its amazing macro****e stimulating effect.
I dont think its fair to make the comparison either so please dont, one is steriodal, one isnt, if you look back you will see i didnt do that first.
Im sure you have hundreds of happy users, it provides a phsycological impact that users can see.
And im certain in certain cases that erase will decrease the symptoms of gyno.
Kid regards RSGause institute member
Need2slin designer.Product designer/ **** admin.
- 10-06-2010, 11:09 AM
This thread has spiraled into lots of headaches
CM my man...like oufinny said youre usually dead on with your science and knowledge but your logic here is in left field
And as far as Erase dosing goes...everyone has different levels of estrogen and different conversion rates. I have seen people take 50mg Erase and that is their sweet spot. When they take 75mg it is too much. And I have seen guys like oufinny who liked 100mg.
Russian could easily be a guy who needs 100mg for it to be effective, where as I am someone who only needs 50mg. Out of ALL the feedback we have gotten, 50-75mg seems to be what people prefer, but thats not to say theres plenty who like 100mg as well
- 10-06-2010, 11:11 AM
10-06-2010, 11:12 AM
I dont speculate that erase will be suppresive, i know that any test boosters that lower estrogen will suppress hpta if they are used over a prolonged period and the dose is high enough.
Thats why i have recently asked those interested in bulbine not to use it for long periods.
Some things may seem to be nonsense to those without understanding..."yes i can be condescending", but re read all my posts i have not contradicted myself, you have merely misundertood them.
Forma is suppressive... if dosed high enough, did i say it wasnt? please point that out to me bro.
As for negging people its not my style, so please dont judge me by yourself.
kind regards RS
Gause institute member
Need2slin designer.Product designer/ **** admin.
10-06-2010, 11:14 AM
10-06-2010, 11:20 AM
That is all gentlemen.
And everyone needs to chill out. A discussion is a discussion. In an discussion like this condescending attitude might show up a little bit because it is an argument type of discussion. But please stick to the argument at hand. I'm sick of companies calling out companies over arguments about supplements and how they work. Keep the discussion on what it's about, and don't get your panties in a bunch when someone speaks with a heavier tone in the discussion. It is expected to happen within argument type discussions. It's all good guys. I love discussions like these but hate it when people go off topic from it and display that off topic point as an argument in itself. It won't stand in a discussion.
For the fourth time... all products mentioned here are SOLID at what they do.
Have a good day everyone
And OP, asses your goals and choose based on your goals and not just the supplements. You're goals are extremely important in your decision.
10-06-2010, 12:19 PM
Awesome discussion here. Also, no one is showing any love for 6-bromo (my usual choice).
10-06-2010, 02:43 PM
10-06-2010, 02:55 PM
10-06-2010, 03:49 PM
10-06-2010, 09:58 PM
I've no idea about erase, but at least one positive aspect of formestane is that it was deemed safe enough for women with breast cancer to tolerate. No one had to discontinue using it in a study abstract I saw. At the least, you can take it and know that if your stuff is pure, over a few weeks you will have few potential health problems. If only we could say the same for most supps (not necessarily erase).
10-06-2010, 10:29 PM
Another one of these threads? First we compare PM to Free Test and now Erase to Formestane. How do you compare them? They're all completely different..
In this case one is steroidal and the other is not..end of story! OP if you're smart you'll go for the one that does not f*ck with your hormones..
10-07-2010, 08:18 AM
10-07-2010, 08:54 AM
10-07-2010, 09:34 AM
10-07-2010, 10:51 AM
10-07-2010, 11:27 AM
10-07-2010, 11:42 AM
I would agree though that most natty's don't yield favorable results. Not all but most. I don't think Erase falls in with the majority however, and in this case I still think Erase would be safer and probably just as effective.
10-07-2010, 01:45 PM
10-11-2010, 06:06 AM
10-11-2010, 06:17 AM
10-11-2010, 07:43 AM
The formestane bashing in this thread was unwarranted, for sure. It'd be cooler if natty simply pointed out the differences while lauding both products. Instead it is clear he is on some sort of formestane witch hunt. Bottom line: Formestane is hard to find, Erase is lacking in much user feedback, and Nutra's 6bromo is 10 bucks a bottle
10-11-2010, 07:50 AM
10-11-2010, 07:53 AM
I haven't searched high and low. It's my opinion, please link me to some if you feel it's so readily available. Solo logs not during pct would be my preference. Also, as compared to formestane there is no comparison.
10-11-2010, 07:54 AM
WTF is up with you reps feeling so defensive about your product anyways, and simultaneously attacking a product that barely made by anyone? I don't think anyone in here has bashed erase or its AI. Chill maybe?
10-11-2010, 07:56 AM
I am unconcerned with what THEHUGE is saying on the other board. The results speak, especially when he has other interests he is vested in.
The Historic PES Legend
10-11-2010, 08:00 AM
The Historic PES Legend
10-11-2010, 08:03 AM
You guys have got to be kidding when you say form has been linked to delayed gyno. Aside from the fact that rebound gyno is something that only occurs on the forums, steroidal ai's dont cause the aromatase enzyme to upregulate. As far as 4oht causing rebound gyno? We get it -- you want to scare users away from formestane to your own AI. Congratulations.
Saying 4oht causes rebound gyno is to me far more 'laughable' than me stating a new product does not have the feedback of a clinically studied AI and a several year old product.
Edit: you are still saying it is laughable without providing links to logs. I could look myself, and maybe I will. But responding with an attack doesn't make me feel any differently. You're a rep, one would think you would jump to promote your product.
10-11-2010, 08:10 AM
As for the rest of your post... this isn't burger king, I could care less if you get it your way. Not exactly going to pander to you and go scouring the boards so I can link you to something when you can easy use the search right there at the top.
The Historic PES Legend
10-11-2010, 08:17 AM
OK. I get it. It's easier to bash other products without proof while promoting your own with references to logs that I should go dig up. This isn't about me being too lazy, this is about you throwing out unfounded bull**** about form, when it is clear to anyone that if any AI needs to be justified, it is the newer one (not saying that your product isn't good...you got that?) I'm out.
10-11-2010, 08:20 AM
10-11-2010, 08:59 AM
Everything you guys are arguing about has already been addressed in this thread and other threads.
We have no need to compare or recommend our product over Formestane, or vice versa. As stated in this thread by multiple people, Erase and Formestane, although both AI's, are very different compounds with very different effects.
Pick whatever you want...we are simply on AM to help edcuate members about our products and assist them in reaching their goals, not here to compare apples to oranges. I see a lot of the comments said were in attempt to get the argumentative nature in this thread going again. This thread has ended, IMO.
10-11-2010, 12:18 PM
10-11-2010, 12:25 PM
Thehuge had bloodwork done on people so I will take his word for it when he says it doesn't produce a significant drop in estradiol. He was also the creator of a product that contained the same compound as erase so he had nothing to gain by saying it is a weak AI (although decent test booster) at the recommended dose.
10-11-2010, 12:40 PM
Man this thread just keeps getting more and more out of control. This has already been debated by really smart guys. If you want to use Form use Form. If you want to use Erase use Erase. They both have their places in the supplement world. Granted Form is alot harder to come by now.
10-11-2010, 01:00 PM
Ive had my wife on Erase for 2 weeks now, i think she is making amazing progress...Erase and a tan has turned her confidence 180, she is truly an amazing woman now.
나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!
10-11-2010, 01:23 PM
10-11-2010, 01:30 PM
10-11-2012, 04:39 AM
Google the natural ISA-Test and its affect on hair...it thinned my hair out to f*Ck. They believe its due to higher test and so highe DHT without control substances. lower dht is fine by me!! Sometimes natural isnt necessarily with less risk for the minute gains. Agression up, yes, test up yes, dht up, gains... hmm.
10-11-2012, 04:48 AM
I prefer formestane, not worried about going bald, I've already been there before...
"No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." - Socrates
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