That sounds like a solid result. Im already thinking of ways to maximize my cycling of tcf-1, such as freeing up more test, increasing androgen receptors and so on.
ya thats what i am going for too.gunna be taking DAA with divanyl,t-force,and 6 bromo.def looking forward to it.
I'm on my 4th bottle of tcf-1 and im loving it i can strenght and libido are up. as far as pimples i get the occasional one in my face or forehead. sometimes on my back but nothing that would keep me from using the product
Just a truly open question out of curiosity... simply because the one pilot study conducted on this compound for some reason chose twelve days as their parameter for measurements, why does that translate into athletes looking for ongoing progressive gains and testosterone bolstering effects to follow the same short cycling method? Test-Prop might create a nice serum boost in T concentration after 12 days of EOD injections, which could be published data, but of course we would never disuse any effective drug after such a short period of time before optimal results are realized - why castrate the possible compounding effects simply because a single study decided to look into the eficacy after such an abridged period of time?
I also used for 36 days straight, just finished up a little while ago, but that was in pct. Same results as above with my 12 on 12 off cycle, just took it everyday. I did not notice any diminishing returns in any regard, from day 6 to 36 was the real sweet spot to feel it, I still had the energy boost when taken preworkout, no loss of libido strength, and when coming off I did not notice any negative rebound effects. Strength was still on the rise as well.
I usually have very bad bacne, but the tcf 1 actually cleared it up a bit, was also getting alot of sun, but did not make it any worse. Haven't heard of anyone experiencing increased acne with it.
Awesome, cleared it up for me - thanks for the response. Has anyone ever self experimented around here with higher dosages to attempt realizing a higher increase in hormonal stimulation?
I started another thread called "the goal with DAA". it's on it's 8th or 9th page, and you can read about why people might have safety concerns taking it for too long. You never know when one of the weird compounds we take will haunt us in our sixtees.
I knew if I kept looking I would find some results from someone dosing for longer than 12 days straight. Thank you Hatefulone.
I think this is why people are primarily sticking to the 12 on/12 off schedule. Hopefully more research will be done on DAA, maybe even using a longer period.
Perhaps I could be of some assistance
Where is the research to back a 12 day on/off protocol? I'm aware of the davadit study where they ran it for 12 days but see no indication where there was a 12 day period of cessation nor any suggestion of such.
Great point. This is actually the reason I whant to be very cautious. The study was only done on the first twelve DAA days out of these people's entire lives. I bet you could do the same with a Superdrol+Tren combo and make that not look very bad. For all we know, this stuff could be really bad.
good question... bumping for response
Hepatotoxic or are you referring to another negative side effect of feedback loop?
Im referring to the fact that we don't know a lot about this product. There is a fifty/fifty chance that it's the new smoking.
Placeboism at work again eh? Seems to be a huge contingent of people giving the same feedback on it though, not to mention the impressive, albeit limited and one, human study.
Oh, we know that the stuff works at this point. Im just saying their needs to be more long term research. With all the stuff we put in our body, we need to know whats bad.
He mentioned an amino acid that can be taken with DAA at the same time to greatly increase uptake - just read the article last night but I can't recall what it was. :grumpy:
THANK you! Driving me crazy! :34:
There's fairly extensive research in other animal subjects though. Whether we can adequately draw conclusions from these is another debate. A long term study involving human participants would give us better insight into its effects. What concerns me are the reports of how quick and dramatic the onset of effects are including neurological ones. It suggests that it may be a NMDA agonist so perhaps more caution is warranted?
I have been taking my DAA product every day pretty much since near the beginning of the year. and for the last 4 months or so been taking it with sarcosine to boost the effects
And sine you have been on almost all year, how can you compare this years gains/mood/libido etc to last year?? Have you gotten bloods done?
i was on a very good run for a while with training and health. then i got a couple of injuries and it ****ed it all up. Did the DAA help? I think it made me feel good but i did not take it in a vacuum so i cannot say what it did or what it did not do
Wow, that would be about triple what my Test level is! Looking forward to the TestForce2 release.
testforce or bulk DAA???
calcium can interfere with zinc absorption. but that is when the metals are in their ionic forms
Thank you. I've always read about that interference.
What brand did you use?
Very interesting... I have been looking for feedback/info from someone who has long extended the usual 12 day protocol, and who better than the man himself? I always thought it was counter intuitive to base a protocol off the construct of a very limited and short human study, especially when effects were just starting to materialize and no side effects were encountered.
Thanks Patrick.
I used pp's tcf 1, I would like to try testforce to compare it, maybe pa will have some extra bottles laying around for me?
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