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    wondering if anyone can help out here.
    looking to put together a nice stack for the winter to gain some decent size and be able to maintain whatever i gain.
    i was looking into the pp products and wasnt quite sure what the best options would be so figured i would ask the experts.
    ultimate goal would be 10-12lbs of upper body mass and increase arm size.
    training and diet are in check, currently "swimmers build" type.

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    are you wanting to go hormonal? and what are your stats that would help us better assist you. i think your goal of 10-12 pounds sounds great but how fast are you expecting to reach your goal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by njlprec View Post
    wondering if anyone can help out here.
    looking to put together a nice stack for the winter to gain some decent size and be able to maintain whatever i gain.
    i was looking into the pp products and wasnt quite sure what the best options would be so figured i would ask the experts.
    ultimate goal would be 10-12lbs of upper body mass and increase arm size.
    training and diet are in check, currently "swimmers build" type.
    The biggest thing before anything can be recommended - as flightposite asked - is whether you want to stay with natural products (i.e. Sustain Alpha) or go the hormonal (i.e. Dermacrine) route?

    A few notes:
    * At 150lb I definitely would NOT recommend hormonals.
    * 10-12lb of UPPER body mass is going to come with a lot of lower body mass as well, since you NEED to do the large compound lifts to best achieve muscle accretion.
    * As flightposite mentioned 10-12lb of lean mass in general is going to take time, so the time period you want it in must be realistic.
    * You don't mention your age, but if anything less than 25 years old (and with a SOLID training base), then I do NOT recommend hormonals.
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    2 bottles Dermacrine with a pct of Phyto-test & tcf-1. Should last 2 1/2-3 months.

    Obviously though training and eatting are the biggest parts, when you're 6 foot and only 150 pounds. Supplements aren't going to do **** if you can't eat.
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    No supplements brah..
    Creatine
    Whey
    Fish Oil
    Multi
    Food

    Live by that^^^^

    Squat, bench and deads.. Lots.. Less isolation exercises, more compounds.

    Oh, and no cardio!
    If you must, do some HIIT, and not that often either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    No supplements brah..
    Creatine
    Whey
    Fish Oil
    Multi
    Food

    Live by that^^^^

    Squat, bench and dead.. Lots.. Less isolation exercise, more compounds.

    Less cardio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Less cardio
    No cardio lol
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    Eat butter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    Eat butter
    1lb of peanutbutter and a loaf of bread daily



    Why not just start simple as gamer said basic supplements, lift hard and heavy, and eat eat eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    The biggest thing before anything can be recommended - as flightposite asked - is whether you want to stay with natural products (i.e. Sustain Alpha) or go the hormonal (i.e. Dermacrine) route?

    A few notes:
    * At 150lb I definitely would NOT recommend hormonals.
    * 10-12lb of UPPER body mass is going to come with a lot of lower body mass as well, since you NEED to do the large compound lifts to best achieve muscle accretion.
    * As flightposite mentioned 10-12lb of lean mass in general is going to take time, so the time period you want it in must be realistic.
    * You don't mention your age, but if anything less than 25 years old (and with a SOLID training base), then I do NOT recommend hormonals.
    great advice Rosie
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    when i was in highschool some of the football players would bring jars of peanut butter to class and eat it throughout the day, it apparently worked cuz we had some huge meatheads on our team
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    Quote Originally Posted by njlprec View Post
    wondering if anyone can help out here.
    looking to put together a nice stack for the winter to gain some decent size and be able to maintain whatever i gain.
    i was looking into the pp products and wasnt quite sure what the best options would be so figured i would ask the experts.
    ultimate goal would be 10-12lbs of upper body mass and increase arm size.
    training and diet are in check, currently "swimmers build" type.
    You do not need supplements. What you need to do is eat like a lion and lift heavy.You do not need anything other than the basics...whey protein, creatine, EFA's. You could add a multi-Vitamin, but you do not need one if you make sure you eat a proper diet and know what your getting from your food.

    If you want size I suggest you start making yourself some homemade weight gainer shakes and have them twice daily. I generally have them for breakfast and post-workout, but that is just my way of doing it.

    If you have a blender good, but if not...get one and then you can make a shake like so:

    2 TBSP of Natty PB (My personal preference is Naturally More PB)
    1 Cup of Oats
    1 Banana
    16oz skim milk
    Liquid Egg Whites
    1 Scoop of Whey Protein (I suggest Chocolate, Strawberry, or Banana Flavors as they taste the best when with this mix)

    In addition to your shakes...you should be eating plenty of fruits...blueberries in particular, vegetables...broccoli in particular, lean meats such as turkey, chicken, buffalo meat or 96/4 ground beef, fish, etc.

    Get eating and get training hard. Your goals are attainable, but you need to have patience to get what you want...no shortcuts. Work hard and stay dedicated.

    Cheers and good luck!

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    again as rosie stated, at 6'1 150 id say youre prety new to lifting and the general stuff here

    so a good stack phyto-testosterone, IBCAAA Creatine, beta alanine, a chiptole gift card.... and a costco membership.

    how to use
    phyto-test as label states, great dose of testofen, and good protein utilization from the methoxyisoflavone,
    IBCAA-10g 60min before each meal to increase mTOR, and protein synthesis
    creatine for strength gains
    beta alanine to pair with creatine for increased stamina and strength
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