Novice Stack Idea?
- 08-16-2010, 10:30 AM
Novice Stack Idea?
So after next month with doing Clen and Alpha i want to start doing a decent stack to put on some weight, nothing seriously hardcore, but a good place to start.
I currently take Pre Post (Jacked and Synthesize) Extend for intra, ZMA for just an added muscle build.
I was looking at the swole stack in the nutra planet store, or the pink magic stack. Really i just need some advice on where to start out, and what ya'll would recommend to me, sorry for my lack of knowledge in the area.
Thanks in advance
- 08-16-2010, 11:20 AM
Could you give us some background (age, training experience, diet, etc)
- 08-16-2010, 12:17 PM
08-16-2010, 01:03 PM
Some backgroung info would be good. If you have everything in check the Swole Stack or Pink Magic can help. Diet and training will be the main keys.
08-16-2010, 04:21 PM
Im 20 almost 21 (finally) years old, about 180lbs, 5'7, last time i checked around 17% body fat (keep in mind im coming from 37% body fat at almost 300lbs) so i still have some flab to get rid of...
Thankfully OEP was invented and has been my miracle cure
Well i started training about 9 months ago, lost about 100lbs and am finally getting into gaining. I train 5 days a week, twice a day,
Mon morn - HIIT cardio, 1 hour lifting (legs), 20 min abs
afternoon - 30 minutes stair master, 30 min elliptical
Tues morn - Jog 30 minutes, 1 hour lift (chest arms)
Wed morn - HIIT cardio, 1 hour lift (back shoulder forearm), 20 min abs
Thur - off
Fri morn - HIIT cardio, 1 hour abs
afternoon - 1 hour of various cardio
Saturday - repeat of friday
Diet is 100% in check, egg whites, protein powder, bananas, celery, brocolli, and chicken are the only things i eat, i eat 6 to 7 meals a day, and keep at about 1200 calories since im still cutting (obviously i have to double this for a gain cycle)
I have done my research into proper cycling with any kind of anabloic, im not sure if either of these qualify as such, where its necessary for proper pre, on cycle, and post cycle
However i do no matter what take my omegas, fish oils, milk thistle, and fiber every day.
Goal oriented is i want to compete in bodybuilding, i just have a long road, and im hoping putting on a good weight with muscle will compensate some skin issues after such a loss
Also, while taking either of these im probably going to pick up a mass gainer to fill in some of the missing calories im going to need to build on cycle so a recommendation there would be helpful
I also do take Nova every so often, i went in and unfortunately have a really awfully low test level output with a little higher estrogen output...ya...that was ****ty...so i put that in here and there to help out with my testosterone
I think this is all the info you requested, anything else just ask
08-16-2010, 04:24 PM
08-17-2010, 01:25 PM
08-17-2010, 01:28 PM
the only problem is that the basics havent been doing much, i feel like a stand still, and i know im young but like i mentioned, the problem is my test levels are awful, they have no idea why, but i have always gotten the ****ty end of the genetics in my family
if i do go with a stack so far i have boiled it down to swole or natabolic, just havent decided, i have heard that test pro is good for just increasing naturally, does it have anti aromatase built in?
08-17-2010, 01:33 PM
08-17-2010, 02:05 PM
08-17-2010, 06:21 PM
08-17-2010, 07:57 PM
I have yet to try TestoPRO, but would venture to guess it would have to be a solid product to be formulated by Mike and Company.
Oh, also I have heard positive feedback on Propadrol EP from EST, and Ergo Pharm's (E Pharm now) DAA.
08-17-2010, 10:05 PM
My low levels were tested by an actual test done at a doctors office, i went in and had everything done when i blacked out one day, so we wanted to test out what was going on (turns out just low on sugar)
I have heard of the E Pharm but not propadrol, i will give that a research into as well
I just want to put on some decent weight which seemingly isnt happening with just some creatine, protein, and pre/intra/post
08-17-2010, 10:07 PM
08-17-2010, 10:11 PM
08-17-2010, 10:16 PM
Should i forgoe the stack and just use these two together, but Glycobol seems to be an effective product in conjunction with testopro and stoked
08-17-2010, 10:41 PM
08-17-2010, 10:44 PM
08-18-2010, 02:32 PM
08-18-2010, 02:36 PM
08-18-2010, 02:37 PM
08-18-2010, 02:48 PM
08-18-2010, 02:54 PM
08-18-2010, 03:06 PM
Sounds good, should i keep up with the pre/intra/post and zma on cycle or should i leave them because its too much
08-18-2010, 03:08 PM
08-20-2010, 05:49 PM
08-20-2010, 05:53 PM
I have starting mentally organizing my imminent PCT, and aside from the usual suspects of Clomid and HCG injections, I am toying with the prospect of implementing DAA and Formestane - I'm very much open to suggestion.
08-20-2010, 06:04 PM
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