the goal with DAA
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- 08-03-2010, 02:08 PM
Also, what are you thoughts on D-AA and prolactin levels? Would you recommend using a prolactin antagonist, such as Vitamin B6/P-5-P, during the dosing period?
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I have been using DAA since sometime in June at the 3 grams dose daily first thing in the morning. I have had no estrogen problems. According to the the study on DAA prolactin levels were only slightly increased but stayed within normal range. What is all this rage about prolactin and estrogen? if you keep your dose to 3.12 grams daily there won't be any problems.
08-03-2010, 07:54 PM
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Hey Dr D, nice to see you back too Are you using whats sold as straight DAA, or are you using sodium d-aspartate as was used in most of the studies? The only studies i've seen using straight DAA are injected (in vivo at least) in rats. I figure the combination of NaDA, and Applied Nutriceuticals Free Test, as well as something like Activate Extreme would be overall a hugely potent + and synergistic supplement stack (and i'll be finally starting in a couple weeks, ordered huge quantity of NaDA )
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08-03-2010, 10:15 PM
08-03-2010, 11:04 PM
Dr.D, you ran it a half a year straight!?! any side effects long term to look out for? *besides hormonally* like is it slightly toxic to any organs that may build up over time or whatever?
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08-03-2010, 11:28 PM
08-04-2010, 12:05 AM
I've tried the DL, the pure D, the free acid and the Sodium salt. The DL had distinctly more CNS activity, not sure if I liked it at 6g, but 4.5 wasn't too bad. The pure D is great at ~3g per day (plus or minus) or 2.3g/d stacked with 25mg Forskolin. Forskolin definitely seems to reduce the amount of DAA required and vice-versa. They have overlapping steroidogenic mechanisms. As far as salts, it seems to make very little difference, if any. I can feel the free acid kick in just as fast, that subtle yet distinct mental sensation I get from DAA (kind of an focus factor feeling.) I like one dosing it in the morning on an empty stomach too, but that's probably not super important. The Sodium salt is just fine too, but it requires a bit more than the free acid. The only real advantage in salts are solubility, if you wanna dissolve it in a shake or something.
08-04-2010, 12:30 AM
No, I haven't noticed any subtle long-term sequela, or significant acute toxicity either. Like I said, the DL-AA seemed a little rough to me. I didn't trust the feeling enough to keep testing it, even though it's super cheap compared to D-AA. After all these years I have a pretty good feel for the intrinsic toxicity of things, and DAA seems like it's inherently "pretty ok". I would still suggest cycling it though (like most things, even creatine) as far as a long-term strategy.
My wife asked me tonight if I was "taking something" because she said my back looked a little bumpy. It's funny I had kinda noticed it myself about a month or so ago, but I haven't cycled any phs in over 2 years, so I guess the only side so far is possibly slight acne.
As far as long-term positives, I haven't experienced any major joint healing of old injuries, which I was hoping for since DAA might theoretically repair old connective probs. I have noticed also that I got the "old man nads" more, kinda reminiscent of an hCG effect. Not sure if you'd necessarily consider that a benefit or a side effect though, lol. It could be useful to antagonize certain post-cycle issues I'd bet.
08-04-2010, 12:43 AM
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08-04-2010, 01:09 AM
As far as libido goes, it's really hard for me to say bro. It seems like I'm pretty much steady state ready to rock and roll as usual, but my wife is prego again so she's not always a very "cooperative" female test subject anymore.
You might add some Fenugreek extract to your stack. I just tested 4 guys on 900mg/day of solo testofen (50% extract) and they all reported a degree of libido increase. I think it stacks well with the DAA too.
08-04-2010, 01:17 AM
I have some bulk DAA in the mail. Time to get the CC back out & get some testofen..
08-04-2010, 07:04 AM
Last time I saw DR D on here was when Glycobol was being released. There is ALOT of man love round here for the Dr....
08-04-2010, 08:24 AM
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08-04-2010, 09:21 AM
Always great to see Dr.D around.
I just started my third tub of DAA this week. Haven't noticed any sides. The first two tubs were TestForce, and the third is NP's DAA. I figure I'll run through this third tub, and then maybe go off for about a month.
08-04-2010, 09:21 AM
Whebn I start a thread, Dr. D shows up!
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08-04-2010, 01:49 PM
Like some other guys have mentioned, fat dosing Vit. B-6 at night (which I would only do for short periods of time because of neuropathy risk) or taking dopaminergic herbs like Mucuna at night or St. John's Wort in the morning would be my first considerations if it became a problem.
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08-04-2010, 03:11 PM
I've been taking Propadrol ep for about 4 days it has 3 grams of daa and 200mg of there AI per serving. I'll report back if I start seeing any prolactin sides cause I get them if I even look at a bottle of PS/AAS.
08-04-2010, 03:24 PM
I've been taking St. John's now, for a few months. I believe it was one of the keys to helping me kick cigarettes.
Looks like it might be helping in some other ways.
08-04-2010, 03:34 PM
I know this stuff is supposed to help the gonads use more cholesterol. Dose this happen on a level that can benefit cholesterol levels?
I know it's a stretch, but it runs in my family, so it would be coo if I was on to something!
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