Most hardcore stack for teen

[Zues91]

What would you consider a hardcore stack for a teen, age 19. In other words what would be the most hardcore stack you would suggest for people under 21. Just so I can get some ideas. Thanks in advanced, and +reps for suggestions.

[robe84]

TZ3 stack from sci fit,dhea, jacked for pre workout and maybe add a nutrient repartitioner like usplabs prime or animal m stak

[poison]

For what goal? Fatloss? Muscle gain? Strength?

[WilteredFire]

For what goal? Fatloss? Muscle gain? Strength?

^^ What he said...

[Zues91]

Muscle gain and strength of course strength comes from muscle gain so yeah any suggestion would be awesome.

[rochabp]

ecdysterone, methoxy, tribulus, creapure, protein, a ton of food and a nutrient repartioner

[Zues91]

ecdysterone, methoxy, tribulus, creapure, protein, a ton of food and a nutrient repartioner

Thanks man if you could suggest brand names that worked for you, cause im not sure where to start with ecdy, methoxy, and tribulus.

[KingLouisXXIV]

NO PH's. You can try natural test boosters, but they might not do much. Short of steroids, your testosterone is at the highest it will be in your lifetime right now. With steroids, you're going to have some serious issues later in life.

I'm 19, no natty test boosters have really done anything for me. Out of everything, I would say a good multivitamin, fish oil, adequate protein intake, BCAA's, creatine, and beta alanine have done the most.

I buy my creatine and beta alanine in bulk and mix in with my 1 scoop whey pre/ 2 scoops post WO shakes. I use LG's BC +EAA during workouts, not because its superior, but because bulk BCAA's are nearly impossible to drink and mix. Don't waste money on expensive name brand "innovative" products.

[rochabp]

NO PH's. You can try natural test boosters, but they might not do much. Short of steroids, your testosterone is at the highest it will be in your lifetime right now. With steroids, you're going to have some serious issues later in life.

I'm 19, no natty test boosters have really done anything for me. Out of everything, I would say a good multivitamin, fish oil, adequate protein intake, BCAA's, creatine, and beta alanine have done the most.

I buy my creatine and beta alanine in bulk and mix in with my 1 scoop whey pre/ 2 scoops post WO shakes. I use LG's BC +EAA during workouts, not because its superior, but because bulk BCAA's are nearly impossible to drink and mix. Don't waste money on expensive name brand "innovative" products.

you should have said that to kids that were in my high school. kids at my high school were doing cycles left and right and many without PCT i knew some kid who even ran dianabol with no PCT and not even any test. also knew kids taking superdrol without PCT and then they would show up with tits

[Hardnutcheck]

Steak n taters

[Zues91]

I look down on PH's personally. A lot of my friends are juice heads, and im just looking for alternatives. I did take bioforge, and again it was decent not a waste. I recovered fast and my muscles felt hard but still not much of help. So no I don't use natty test boosters anymore. I am interested what else is out there though, ofc I have a Multi, EFA right now. Im looking for pre-workout, not a creapure because of the bloating effects, but still a creatine, protein I keep getting optimum whey+casein. I am looking for other things to add into the mix.

[rochabp]

I look down on PH's personally. A lot of my friends are juice heads, and im just looking for alternatives. I did take bioforge, and again it was decent not a waste. I recovered fast and my muscles felt hard but still not much of help. So no I don't use natty test boosters anymore. I am interested what else is out there though, ofc I have a Multi, EFA right now. Im looking for pre-workout, not a creapure because of the bloating effects, but still a creatine, protein I keep getting optimum whey+casein. I am looking for other things to add into the mix.

bro you worried about bloat?, man up creapure is good stuff. great strength gains for sure plus water retention can provide a bit of an anabolism effect

[poison]

Diet, bro. You need to eat.If you're lifting heavy, and smart, but not making gains, you're not eating enough. That's the limiting factor. Post your workout and diet.

[Zues91]

Diet:
Wake up: Protein Shake I add in banana and peanut butter with some oats with fat free milk
Breakfast: 3 egg omelet with peppers onions and spinach
Lunch: Tuna fish salad with low fat mayo onions mustard and celery on whole weat
Dinner: Chicken Breast and some broccoli and spinach or steak some nights I like skirt steak and I marinade it and put it on the grill.
Snack: assorted nuts and an apple
Snack 2: Fruit smoothie Banana,apple,pineapple,strawbe rry with lowfat yogurt and some ice.
Bed-time: Casein protein shake with fat free milk

workout:
4 day split
monday: Biceps/forarms
tuesday: Triceps/back
wednesday: off
thursday: Chest
friday: Shoulders/legs
Saturday: off
Sunday: off

Cardio is done on offdays I like to run in the mornings. Abs are done 3 days a week.

[rochabp]

Diet:
Wake up: Protein Shake I add in banana and peanut butter with some oats with fat free milk
Breakfast: 3 egg omelet with peppers onions and spinach
Lunch: Tuna fish salad with low fat mayo onions mustard and celery on whole weat
Dinner: Chicken Breast and some broccoli and spinach or steak some nights I like skirt steak and I marinade it and put it on the grill.
Snack: assorted nuts and an apple
Snack 2: Fruit smoothie Banana,apple,pineapple,strawbe rry with lowfat yogurt and some ice.
Bed-time: Casein protein shake with fat free milk

workout:
4 day split
monday: Biceps/forarms
tuesday: Triceps/back
wednesday: off
thursday: Chest
friday: Shoulders/legs
Saturday: off
Sunday: off

Cardio is done on offdays I like to run in the mornings. Abs are done 3 days a week.

maybe its just me but that seems more like a recomp (diet) and not a bulk
but then again i go crazy on bulks

[zodiiac523]

Diet:
Wake up: Protein Shake I add in banana and peanut butter with some oats with fat free milk
Breakfast: 3 egg omelet with peppers onions and spinach
Lunch: Tuna fish salad with low fat mayo onions mustard and celery on whole weat
Dinner: Chicken Breast and some broccoli and spinach or steak some nights I like skirt steak and I marinade it and put it on the grill.
Snack: assorted nuts and an apple
Snack 2: Fruit smoothie Banana,apple,pineapple,strawbe rry with lowfat yogurt and some ice.
Bed-time: Casein protein shake with fat free milk

workout:
4 day split
monday: Biceps/forarms
tuesday: Triceps/back
wednesday: off
thursday: Chest
friday: Shoulders/legs
Saturday: off
Sunday: off

Cardio is done on offdays I like to run in the mornings. Abs are done 3 days a week.

i would add some carbs with dinner if your looking to gain

aslo whats your pre/post workout meal?

Edit : i agree with roch, your food choices are solid but just need more calories..

[sanchezgreg18]

add some protein to your snack meals. and id add more fats (more eggs with your breakfast, PB, EVOO) aswell as carbs like brown rice and oats especially to breakfast and lunch. at the most your getting maybe 80-100 grams of carbs? you should be having that many carbs per meal

[Zues91]

Depends if i workout in the morning i usually just drink a shake and have a banana and have my pre-workout 30 mins before i headout to the gym, then post workout i would have a shake and I have my lunch afterwords. Afternoon/evening sessions i would make a preworkout smoothie with some kind of pre-workout supplement then afterwords have a shake then my dinner.

[poison]

add some protein to your snack meals. and id add more fats (more eggs with your breakfast, PB, EVOO) aswell as carbs like brown rice and oats especially to breakfast and lunch. at the most your getting maybe 80-100 grams of carbs? you should be having that many carbs per meal

Bingo. Carbs, good healthy ones. Lots of em. Add 500cal worth, assess for a couple weeks, add more if needed.

[Zues91]

I was wondering if we could go back the supplements as originally thats what I was looking for, btw you've all been +repped.