in need of HARDCORE preworkout

[luelinks]

Ok I have tried superpump250(made me crash), White flood(good but doesn't make my veins show), white blood(VERY GOOD my veines came out pretty good), Nano vapor(good but WAY overpriced), Jack3d(tried two bottle and both failed), No-Xplod(It made me xplod the bathroom), Nanox9(ok but way overpriced), Heatshock(ok). I think this is all of them but I need something that would make my veins bulge out insanely. What would you guys recommend?! I've heard good things about LG science but I've never tried there products.


EDIT: Ok here is couple more I just remembered I had sampled. BSN nitrix(good but very expensive) for couple of days, MHP dark rage(MEH), Assault(LOVE the taste but the vein just chilled under my skin), VPX No shotgun(I think thats the name and it was ok), and there is couple more I just can't remember right now.

P.S. DAMN I've tried a lot of stuff!

[luelinks]

Oh and I've tried VPX pre-workout and Assault both OK but again not that whole rush feeling.

[raulob72]

Muscle Marinde by purus labs is amazing!! you are gonna love this

[ecupirate]

Maximize v2 is a very strong stim pre w/o. I only use half a scoop now. My favorite so far as energy goes. Try something with glycocarn in it. Actually proven to vasodilate. Those products are usually more expensive but if you really need your viens to bulge. Maybe try losing body fat also.

[liftallday123]

cellucor N0 extreame. Def my favorite pre-workout supp

[luelinks]

Maximize v2 is a very strong stim pre w/o. I only use half a scoop now. My favorite so far as energy goes. Try something with glycocarn in it. Actually proven to vasodilate. Those products are usually more expensive but if you really need your viens to bulge. Maybe try losing body fat also.

I am on a cut right now as we speak(or read) but even when my BF% was at 9 or so my veins were hidden. You can see them but they won't come bulge out!

[louisaboy]

LG SCIENCES!!! ASGT and AP.... Pm me. I know where u can get them for 19.99 a piece.. or you can also get Postal to go along with it for 52.00.

[luelinks]

Oh yeah I tried BSN nitrix for couple of days and it was INSANE but its WAAAAY overpriced.

[SilentBob187]

I need something that would make my veins bulge out insanely.

2-3g Glycine Propionyl L-Carnitine and 20-30g Gylcerol.

[criticalbench]

Maximize v2 is a very strong stim pre w/o. I only use half a scoop now. My favorite so far as energy goes. Try something with glycocarn in it. Actually proven to vasodilate. Those products are usually more expensive but if you really need your viens to bulge. Maybe try losing body fat also.

Agreed, maximize v.2 is some good stuff that has gotten great consistent feedback; designed to be very complete all around.

Mike

[luelinks]

2-3g Glycine Propionyl L-Carnitine and 20-30g Gylcerol.

I read on bbdotcom about Gylcerol and it had a lot of good things about it. MV2 is $30, but LG pump plus AGST both for $40. I don't know which one I should go with! LG and iforce both have very good reviews

[chocolatemilk]

I got a sample of RagNoRok a while ago and loved it. Gonna buy some for my Pct.

[gymrat827]

Well I dont know how much you know about arginine now days. Its reported to do very little to boost your NO production. L-Carnitine and L-tartante(sp) and beta alaine are the new NO supp. Gaspari make anaivate, MHP makes NO-Bomb, etc

As far as the old NO pre WO's I like Black powder(MRI) and Juggernaut (infinite labs) the best. I also put in a extra few g's of Arg AKG & 1500mg of carnitine + 5gs of creatine mono. I get a great pump from it, veins come out, muscles look super hard & dense after workouts.

I also drink 16gs of scivation xtend (bcaa's & glutamine) with 7-8gs of creatine mono during my workouts.

[rochabp]

any prewokrout with added vitamin c, fish oils, egcg, and GPLC

Anabolic pump protocol

[rochabp]

BTW does anyone know where i can get the pure EPA and DHA from fish oils?

[djbombsquad]

2-3g Glycine Propionyl L-Carnitine and 20-30g Gylcerol.

GPLC has to be 4 grams to be at a clinical dose not 2.5, 3.7 or any thing like that to work.

Now I started pre surge unleahsed 1 scoop, half scoop of anarchy I am ordering and 2 caps of GPLC to make 4 grams of GPLC between that and pre surge.
I also have left over BA to make sure I am at 4 grams too. Any thing else could be things like Pink Magic, Prime, Gear, need to slin with carbs etc.

Glycine propionyl-L-carnitine hydrocholoride (GPLC) is a fairly new ingredient to enter into the bodybuilding supplementation world. here’s the situation. #1 the product tastes like crap and is very expensive to use since I tried raw powder. The studies that I have read show that one must use 4 grams and 6 grams of GPLC for a serving size. Thus if you look at the GPLC sold at like protein factory or primordialperformance you will notice it cost around $60/65.00 for a measly 150 grams. That’ll last you about 1 month. So I went ahead and looked at what other supplement company’s were selling their GPLC for.

Well here’s what I found.

nitrocarn-gplc-fusion
This product contains only 1.5 grams of GPCL in 4 capsules and you only get 15 servings per bottle. So what this supplement company did is either didn’t read the study that it takes 4 grams of GPLC to work or made a conscience decision to rip you off.

MaxNitroEXT

Here’s another product I found that contains GPLC but along with a bunch of 10 other things in their “proprietary formula”. It equates to only 3.65 grams. So barely enough to give you the 4grams required.

Thus when trying to find GPLC make sure you get one with the correct serving size of 4 grams of GPLC per serving. Don’t be fooled by proprietary formulas. If you see a GPLC product with other ingredients like L-arginine or things like it. I don’t recommend you buy it.

[ryan6f7]

Im using Ultima right now and i really like it.

[Kristofer68SS]

N2KTS
JP8
Rag

are what I am using now.

All really really good.

I have many tubs of SN GPLC and RPN LCLT....I got Superior Nutraceuticals 250g tubs and got them for a lot less than PP or PF (i think i bought 8 or 10 tubs though)........Personally, I dont see what all the rave is about.

[djbombsquad]

So out of the 20 or so sports nutrition company’s that use GPLC I just did a google search only 2 use it correctly MHP and protein factory. The other don’t, or trick you such as code red by muscle meds says clincal dose of the proven GPLC by siga tau yet its only a clinical dose if you take 2 scoops. Its miss leading. On the back it says 1 scoop because its very powerfull or some thing like that.

[JudgementDay]

N2KTS is the best PWO supp I've used to date, always got crazy pumps with P-slin, also Citruvol Ultra or Hemovol stacked with N2KTS gives me crazy veins.