Also, within the entire vast body of science and research that has been conducted on human protein metabolism and nitrogen retention, there has yet to be a single study that can validate and quantify whole food as being more efficient and proliferative with regards to amino acid pool replenishment, nitrogen balance, catabolic avoidance, and recuperative ability.
egg I belive absorbs like 98 %
then whey like close to egg
then chicken then fish
that means the body takes in a higher percent of protein on certain foods.
although beans have a lot of protein the protein absorbed is less than like 70 %
did you know this Outstanding? It has been proven though scientific testing
Meat actually takes the longest to digest. Soy being actually shorter in amino acid chain making it easy on the stomach. I love my soy protein. I take it every morning. The PDCAA and BV on soy at least the soy Im taking is close to 100% perfect. Also remember the FDA and NSF gives guidelines saying you can have some amount of harmful ingredients and still be able to sell so endless they are checking or actually taking out the bad parts they can still legally sell it as long as theres a warming label on it.
Here is a chart showing what percentage of that protein the body is actually able to use for building muscle
Food %Net Protein Utilization
brown rice 70
Meat and fowl 68
soybean flour 61
(Whey, a milk derivative, which is a refined product, has even more net protein than eggs)
as you can see some foods are better for building muscle by the amount of protein percentage it uses to build muscle. So there is a big difference
between how much protein a food contains and how much of that protein you can actually use to build muscle.
Valid point John.
Also the meat your refuring to is raw meat not cooked meat. Once cooked past 60 degrees the BV and PDCAA goes down big time.
I do not know if Arnold Schwarzenegger is referring to cooked or raw in this book. I got this information back when I first got into bodybuilding over eight years ago when I bought his book, The modern encyclopedia of modern bodybuilding,which I still look up stuff and has helped me over the years, and continues to help me. He was ahead of his time as well.
That is one thing about the workout maxamizer and the ESP I am taking no heat involved. Listen to super human radio on raw diet. They discuess about meat that gets heated is useless. I think its http://www.superhumanradio.com/super...follow-up.html one
or this one http://www.superhumanradio.com/super...food-show.html not sure but one of them talked about cooking meat destroys the amino acids and that if one is going to consume meat try to not cook it to high.
This goes back to the old question of cooking the egg or eating it raw.
Cooking the egg DOES denature (not destroy) proteins. However, the amino acids are what we use anyways from the egg (not whole proteins) and they remain in tact. I'm sure the same applies to meat. Protein is known to denature at high temps but that doesn't mean the amino acids become useless or are destroyed.
So the question I ask is if I burn my finger with the highest degree burn cam I use it or is if useless and I have no feeling. To a certain degree it's not useless but it is not 100% functional ether. That's how I look at meat.
Nothing is 100% funtional in terms of protein anyway. Hell, most nutrients, if not all, your body will only use a fraction of what you put in it, and you piss the rest out.
I really do want someone to invent a food that is 100% functional to the body though...I would love so much to never have to crap/urinate again so much time would be saved!
I guess my point is you shouldn't discount meat just because cooking it decreses the amount of usable proteins...meat is delicious, and everyone gets some form of aminos elsewhere, drinking them during workout, lots of whey has aminos, pills, etc.
No... never heard of it - fill me in
In all seriousness though... I didn't engage in any discourse involving utilization rates, I was merely stating that whey protein's proficiency cannot be overstated and has been repeatedly demonstrated to be a superior proliferative source for achieving all anabolic markers in comparison to whole food. Protein metabolism is a heavily studied sect of science, and all published and verifiable data that has materialized from those decades of study all show whole food is nowhere near as profound as whey protein at reversing catabolism, replenishing amino acid content, initiating protein synthesis, or the rapidity at which all those functions occur.
Here is an excellent published paper extracted from the Journal of Nutrition discussing BV and Amino Acid content http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/31/5/533.pdf
BTW I just saw a awesome youtube video. YouTube- Famous Vegetarian and Vegan Bodybuilders, Athletes, Sportmen and Sportwomen vegetarian bodybuilders that don't eat animals and even mike who is raw. Lot of these people on here are raw eaters. Cool find btw.